in a sexless world
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Rooster17 (imported)
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in a sexless world
if there were no sexes, male or female, what do you think would be the best thing to have. A vagina, pussy, or penis, dick? Would most feel it would be easier to sit to pee or have a shaft to stand with. personally Im not sure, just wondering what the feeling here are.
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Re: in a sexless world
That would be a unisex world - everyone the same.Rooster17 (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:07 pm if there were no sexes, male or female, what do you think would be the best thing to have. A vagina, pussy, or penis, dick? Would most feel it would be easier to sit to pee or have a shaft to stand with. personally Im not sure, just wondering what the feeling here are.
Does this satisfy your requirements?
(1) You would definately need a uterus for reproduction which would also require a vagina.
..........the ovaries could possibly be dual function - providing both egg and sperm.
(2) You would need some way to insert the sperm in the vagina but not necessarily a penis.
..........could possibly be a clitoris that would be small (about 1 or 2 inches in length)
..........but become erect enough to penetrate the vagina and insert the sperm.
(3) Setting to pee would be required as the urethra would just exit in the crotch.
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Re: in a sexless world
A truly sexless world could only exist if we were immortal. Sex is our connection with our animal selves. We step outside thought and are only in the physical pleasure aspect of flesh. We are rutting and grunting animals and our births are marked with blood and pain. I feel this strongly having been the prey to several animals.
I read a book whose name escapes me now but I will search through my collection for the name. The people lived asexual lives and were asexual themselves until mating time. They did couple and live their lives together. During mating time being hermaphroditic one would become masculine and one feminine and they would have a child. After birth returning to the asexual state. They were not intersexed since their bodies would adjust to the mating period. What I am trying to remember is according to the book was their mating times where both masculinized or feminized and so were not able to have children in that cycle.
Any cultures who did fail to reproduce died out and are only known in history. The science fiction fantasy world of humans as hermaphroditic may be as sexless as we dare to become. While I am far removed from human sexuality and see it as rather primordial I am glad some choose to rut and grind away. I am pleased to be a eunuch but do not want a world of us. Much like a vampire wants a human blood supply a world of vampires would soon go hungry indeed.
I read a book whose name escapes me now but I will search through my collection for the name. The people lived asexual lives and were asexual themselves until mating time. They did couple and live their lives together. During mating time being hermaphroditic one would become masculine and one feminine and they would have a child. After birth returning to the asexual state. They were not intersexed since their bodies would adjust to the mating period. What I am trying to remember is according to the book was their mating times where both masculinized or feminized and so were not able to have children in that cycle.
Any cultures who did fail to reproduce died out and are only known in history. The science fiction fantasy world of humans as hermaphroditic may be as sexless as we dare to become. While I am far removed from human sexuality and see it as rather primordial I am glad some choose to rut and grind away. I am pleased to be a eunuch but do not want a world of us. Much like a vampire wants a human blood supply a world of vampires would soon go hungry indeed.
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Re: in a sexless world
those are nice thoughts, but what the question is what would be the prefered look? forget reproduction, sperm, uterus. what look would you rather have? id rather stand to pee, but a smooth area would be nice for alot of things as well. again, my question is what would most rather have in a world that needs no reproduction!
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Re: in a sexless world
For me, "the preferred look" is, and would always be, unique for every person; that being simply because every person is actually unique.
If two "things" are actually the same, there can be only one of them.
What?
Consider electrons. I happen to be a state certified master electrician, and electricians work with electrical wiring and such, and electrical wiring is about electrons bandying about, doing their thing, such as in the computer I am using for writing and posting this...
I have come upon books about electricity in which a plausibly sincere, and definitely mistaken, author put forth something like, "All electrons are the same." As an electrician, I find such assertions to be flagrantly false.
Why?
All electrons appear as though to have the same measurable mass and the same measurable electrical charge, so, if one defines an electron only by its mass and charge, all electrons will have the same definition, or descriptive label.
The label of something is not the something labeled. Likewise, the name of something is not the something named.
Electrons can be observed as though to be particles having charge and mass, and electrons can be observed as though to be waves.
The so-called "wave-particle duality of physics?
Light, as electromagnetic radiation, can be observed as though being particles (as in the photoelectric effect of Albert Einstein's Nobel Prize in Physics) and light can be observed as though being waves (as in the single and double refraction of light within drops of water in forming a double rainbow.
For myself, my preferred look is always looking the way I look.
When I had my original testicles, I preferred to look that way. When I got my orchiectomy, in 1986, I preferred to look like I got my orchiectomy in 1986. When I got testicular prostheses, I preferred to look like I had testicular protheses. When my body developed a foreign body reaction to the testicular prostheses and they were removed, I preferred to look like I had been castrated, had been provided with testicular prostheses, and had the prostheses removed. If I have been busy doing other than getting a haircut, I prefer to look like a longhair (I somewhat prefer classical music to other music, hence am a natural longhair?).
I always prefer to look the way I am because that is how I am.
My dad's sex life stopped when he was 66, as did all of the rest of his this-worldly life, when his testicles died, along with his heart, brain, bones, and the rest of his physiological body as he died as a result of cancer and cancer treatment that became terminal. My older brother's sex life stopped when he was 50, as did all the rest of his this-worldly life, when his testicles died along with all of the rest of his body when he died as a result of cancer and cancer treatment that became terminal.
I got my 1986 orchiectomy, not to become sexless, but to stay sexual, if infertile, as much as possible, longer than my dad and brother did. And I have been non-sexless, so far, about 8 years longer than my dad was, and about 26 years longer than my brother was.
For me, my orchiectomy was about being sexual longer than I would otherwise have been.
I prefer to look the way I look, to be the way I am, and to do what I do. I prefer to be who I am as I am, doing as I do. I prefer to learn, and therefore to change, as I learn and change.
In a world that needs no reproduction, and has no reproduction, life, including single cell critters like amoeba, cannot exist. Amoeba have a cell nucleus with DNA that is a reproductive part of an amoeba. Cell biologist Bruce Lipton, in his book, "The Biology of Belief," observed that the nucleus of cell is its gonad, in that nuclear DNA generates proteins as needed for the continuing survival of an amoeba. Reproduction is not only a property of sexual reproduction; it is essential for asexual reproduction, and it is essential for cells, in both single cell and multiple cell organisms.
No reproduction, no life of any sort whatsoever. Reproduction is the basis mechanism of life, of life itself, and of more than life itself.
In a world that needs no reproduction, no world can exist.
So I have learned.
If you can, please demonstrate that the above word fizzle is actually incorrect.
And...
Please do not blame me for the above. I attended the past two MoMs, all of them since I joined the Archive in 2011. At those two MoMs, did all I could to convey to the Archive administration my being, among other awful things, a form of theoretical biologist.
When I post stuff, I prefer my posts to look like the work of a theoretical biologist who truthfully and accurately masquerades as a practical biologist doing the work of a bioengineer.
Mea ultima culpa?
If two "things" are actually the same, there can be only one of them.
What?
Consider electrons. I happen to be a state certified master electrician, and electricians work with electrical wiring and such, and electrical wiring is about electrons bandying about, doing their thing, such as in the computer I am using for writing and posting this...
I have come upon books about electricity in which a plausibly sincere, and definitely mistaken, author put forth something like, "All electrons are the same." As an electrician, I find such assertions to be flagrantly false.
Why?
All electrons appear as though to have the same measurable mass and the same measurable electrical charge, so, if one defines an electron only by its mass and charge, all electrons will have the same definition, or descriptive label.
The label of something is not the something labeled. Likewise, the name of something is not the something named.
Electrons can be observed as though to be particles having charge and mass, and electrons can be observed as though to be waves.
The so-called "wave-particle duality of physics?
Light, as electromagnetic radiation, can be observed as though being particles (as in the photoelectric effect of Albert Einstein's Nobel Prize in Physics) and light can be observed as though being waves (as in the single and double refraction of light within drops of water in forming a double rainbow.
For myself, my preferred look is always looking the way I look.
When I had my original testicles, I preferred to look that way. When I got my orchiectomy, in 1986, I preferred to look like I got my orchiectomy in 1986. When I got testicular prostheses, I preferred to look like I had testicular protheses. When my body developed a foreign body reaction to the testicular prostheses and they were removed, I preferred to look like I had been castrated, had been provided with testicular prostheses, and had the prostheses removed. If I have been busy doing other than getting a haircut, I prefer to look like a longhair (I somewhat prefer classical music to other music, hence am a natural longhair?).
I always prefer to look the way I am because that is how I am.
My dad's sex life stopped when he was 66, as did all of the rest of his this-worldly life, when his testicles died, along with his heart, brain, bones, and the rest of his physiological body as he died as a result of cancer and cancer treatment that became terminal. My older brother's sex life stopped when he was 50, as did all the rest of his this-worldly life, when his testicles died along with all of the rest of his body when he died as a result of cancer and cancer treatment that became terminal.
I got my 1986 orchiectomy, not to become sexless, but to stay sexual, if infertile, as much as possible, longer than my dad and brother did. And I have been non-sexless, so far, about 8 years longer than my dad was, and about 26 years longer than my brother was.
For me, my orchiectomy was about being sexual longer than I would otherwise have been.
I prefer to look the way I look, to be the way I am, and to do what I do. I prefer to be who I am as I am, doing as I do. I prefer to learn, and therefore to change, as I learn and change.
In a world that needs no reproduction, and has no reproduction, life, including single cell critters like amoeba, cannot exist. Amoeba have a cell nucleus with DNA that is a reproductive part of an amoeba. Cell biologist Bruce Lipton, in his book, "The Biology of Belief," observed that the nucleus of cell is its gonad, in that nuclear DNA generates proteins as needed for the continuing survival of an amoeba. Reproduction is not only a property of sexual reproduction; it is essential for asexual reproduction, and it is essential for cells, in both single cell and multiple cell organisms.
No reproduction, no life of any sort whatsoever. Reproduction is the basis mechanism of life, of life itself, and of more than life itself.
In a world that needs no reproduction, no world can exist.
So I have learned.
If you can, please demonstrate that the above word fizzle is actually incorrect.
And...
Please do not blame me for the above. I attended the past two MoMs, all of them since I joined the Archive in 2011. At those two MoMs, did all I could to convey to the Archive administration my being, among other awful things, a form of theoretical biologist.
When I post stuff, I prefer my posts to look like the work of a theoretical biologist who truthfully and accurately masquerades as a practical biologist doing the work of a bioengineer.
Mea ultima culpa?
Re: in a sexless world
This is also a problem I have with zombie movies, Tugon.
What do the Zombies eat when all the humans are gone?
What do the Zombies eat when all the humans are gone?
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Re: in a sexless world
Correct!
I come for food for my body.
I come for food for my mind.
I come for food for thought.
I come for food for friendship.
I come for food for caring.
I come for food for decency.
I come for food for kindness.
I come for food for honesty.
I come for food for truthfulness.
I come for food for heart, mind, soul, spirit, strength, courage, as I also do for food for whatever else may or may not exist.
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Re: in a sexless world
Rooster17 (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:07 pm if there were no sexes, male or female, what do you think would be the best thing to have. A vagina, pussy, or penis, dick? Would most feel it would be easier to sit to pee or have a shaft to stand with. personally Im not sure, just wondering what the feeling here are.
It would be a very boring world!
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I tend to enjoy my sexless world. Lots of peace, no sexual frustration and long walks with my dog.