For a very very long time in New Mexico since the early sixties, one could be married to a person of the "same sex" but not be able to be wedded. Before then same sex weddings were perfectly legal. These were generally usually between males and "waheeny", "nadlee", "mujeradas" or what ever else this form of non-gendered were termed. When the New Mexico wedding forms were changed into the "modern age" this practice was to have been done away with since at that time almost no other state or territory legally practiced this anymore. (I'm not sure about Alaska, Hawaii. or Samoa though.)
*(These were not traditionally considered to be "same sex" marriages by these peoples.)
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>>This is a little subtle in what it asks...
>>It asks that Ohio [quote="D
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from other states on Death Certificates.
>>Actually, that's not correct in that the plaintiffs ask that the Ohio Court dispense with future cases concerning the same matter thus reducing their future workload in remaking the same decision piecemeal.
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Ohio Gay Marriage Lawsuit Seeking Death Certificate Recognition To Include Similarly Situated Couples
AP | By By AMANDA LEE MYERS
Posted: 09/25/2013 12:21 pm EDT
http://www.eunuch.org/forums/newreply.p ... ly&t=24917
CINCINNATI (AP) — A lawsuit seeking to have the marriages of two gay couples recognized on death certificates has been expanded to include all similarly situated couples in Ohio, despite a statewide gay marriage ban.
Attorneys are asking a federal judge to require Ohio's health department to order all funeral directors and coroners in the state to list gay clients as married if they were legally wed in other states.
Judge Timothy Black approved a request to expand the lawsuit Wednesday.
A spokeswoman for Ohio Department of Health Director Theodore Wymyslo (WIM'-slow) did not immediately return a message seeking comment.
Black already has found in favor of two gay Cincinnati couples who wed over the summer in other states, ordering that they be listed as married on Ohio death certificates.
>>It asks that Ohio [quote="D
be forced to recognize same-sex marriages
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from other states on Death Certificates.
>>Actually, that's not correct in that the plaintiffs ask that the Ohio Court dispense with future cases concerning the same matter thus reducing their future workload in remaking the same decision piecemeal.
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Ohio Gay Marriage Lawsuit Seeking Death Certificate Recognition To Include Similarly Situated Couples
AP | By By AMANDA LEE MYERS
Posted: 09/25/2013 12:21 pm EDT
http://www.eunuch.org/forums/newreply.p ... ly&t=24917
CINCINNATI (AP) — A lawsuit seeking to have the marriages of two gay couples recognized on death certificates has been expanded to include all similarly situated couples in Ohio, despite a statewide gay marriage ban.
Attorneys are asking a federal judge to require Ohio's health department to order all funeral directors and coroners in the state to list gay clients as married if they were legally wed in other states.
Judge Timothy Black approved a request to expand the lawsuit Wednesday.
A spokeswoman for Ohio Department of Health Director Theodore Wymyslo (WIM'-slow) did not immediately return a message seeking comment.
Black already has found in favor of two gay Cincinnati couples who wed over the summer in other states, ordering that they be listed as married on Ohio death certificates.
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>>Tonight's news is about New Jersey
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NJ Supreme Court rules same-sex couples can marry beginning Monday
By Elizabeth Chuck and Pete Williams, NBC News
Same-sex marriages will begin Monday in New Jersey after the state Supreme Court ruled Friday that the state must begin granting same-sex marriage licenses, a rebuff to Gov. Chris Christie.
Christie, a Republican, favors civil unions, which New Jersey has offered since 2007, but he opposes same-sex marriage. The state had tried to delay the granting of marriage licenses pending an appeal of a ruling last month that found that it must allow same-sex couples to marry, saying not doing so deprived them of rights the U.S. Supreme Court guaranteed in June.
Christie had asked the New Jersey Supreme Court to freeze a state judge's ruling legalizing same-sex marriage until it heard the case in January and made a final decision, but the court, in a unanimous ruling, found that the state had "not shown a reasonable probability it will succeed on the merits."
Gov. Chris Christie had asked the state Supreme Court to freeze same-sex marriages until issued a final ruling next year.
In a statement Friday afternoon, Christie's office said that while he disagrees with the ruling, "the Supreme Court has made its determination" and directed the state Health Departme
"The long wait in New Jersey is finally over the door is open for love, commitment and equality under the law! This is a huge victory for New Jersey's same-sex couples and their families," Hayley Gorenberg, deputy legal director of Lambda Legal, which filed a brief on behalf of six same-sex couples who sought the right to marry, said in a statement.
The National Organization for Marriage, a nonprofit activist group that has funded most legal challenges to same-sex marriage, called the order "extremely disappointing."
"The definition of marriage is something that should be decided by the people of New Jersey themselves, not by any judge or court," Brian Brown, the group's president, said in a statement. "New Jerseyans should have the right to vote on this issue just as voters in nearly three dozen other states have done. ...
"All in all, today's ruling is another sad chapter in watching our courts usurp the rights of voters to determine issues like this for themselves," he said.
Mercer County Superior Court Judge Mary Jacobson ruled Sept. 27 in Trenton in favor of sames-sex couples who had challenged the civil union law, saying it restricted federal benefits given to heterosexual married couples.
With its unanimous ruling among all seven judges, the Supreme Court hinted Friday that it would strike down the ban when it takes up the issue in January.
"The state has advanced a number of arguments, but none of them overcome this reality: Same-sex couples who cannot marry are not treated equally under the law today," the court ruled. "The harm to them is real, not abstract or speculative."
A few New Jersey towns had already started accepting applications for marriage licenses in anticipation of the ruling, NBC New York reported.
Democratic Sen.-elect Cory Booker, the former mayor of Newark, not only welcomed the order but offered to help same-sex couples tie the knot.
"For more than seven years, Mayor Booker has refused all requests to officiate New Jersey marriages because gay couples have been denied that equal right," Booker's office said in a statement. "After today's wonderful news, Mayor Booker is excited to marry both straight and gay couples in City Hall on Monday morning beginning at 12:01 a.m."
The state Supreme Court first ruled in 2006 that same-sex couples were entitled to the same rights and benefits as heterosexual couples get, which led the Legislature to create civil unions in 2007.
The six same-sex couples who challenged the civil union law earlier this year argued that the U.S. Supreme Court changed federal and state laws when it stuck down the Defense of Marriage Act, saying the federal government must recognize same-sex marriages in the states where they are legal.
M. Alex Johnson of NBC News, Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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NJ Supreme Court rules same-sex couples can marry beginning Monday
10/18/21026864-nj-supreme-court-rules-same-sex-couples-can-marry-beginning-monday?lite
By Elizabeth Chuck and Pete Williams, NBC News
Same-sex marriages will begin Monday in New Jersey after the state Supreme Court ruled Friday that the state must begin granting same-sex marriage licenses, a rebuff to Gov. Chris Christie.
Christie, a Republican, favors civil unions, which New Jersey has offered since 2007, but he opposes same-sex marriage. The state had tried to delay the granting of marriage licenses pending an appeal of a ruling last month that found that it must allow same-sex couples to marry, saying not doing so deprived them of rights the U.S. Supreme Court guaranteed in June.
Christie had asked the New Jersey Supreme Court to freeze a state judge's ruling legalizing same-sex marriage until it heard the case in January and made a final decision, but the court, in a unanimous ruling, found that the state had "not shown a reasonable probability it will succeed on the merits."
Gov. Chris Christie had asked the state Supreme Court to freeze same-sex marriages until issued a final ruling next year.
In a statement Friday afternoon, Christie's office said that while he disagrees with the ruling, "the Supreme Court has made its determination" and directed the state Health Departme
become the 14th state
in addition to the District of Columbia.
"The long wait in New Jersey is finally over the door is open for love, commitment and equality under the law! This is a huge victory for New Jersey's same-sex couples and their families," Hayley Gorenberg, deputy legal director of Lambda Legal, which filed a brief on behalf of six same-sex couples who sought the right to marry, said in a statement.
The National Organization for Marriage, a nonprofit activist group that has funded most legal challenges to same-sex marriage, called the order "extremely disappointing."
"The definition of marriage is something that should be decided by the people of New Jersey themselves, not by any judge or court," Brian Brown, the group's president, said in a statement. "New Jerseyans should have the right to vote on this issue just as voters in nearly three dozen other states have done. ...
"All in all, today's ruling is another sad chapter in watching our courts usurp the rights of voters to determine issues like this for themselves," he said.
Mercer County Superior Court Judge Mary Jacobson ruled Sept. 27 in Trenton in favor of sames-sex couples who had challenged the civil union law, saying it restricted federal benefits given to heterosexual married couples.
With its unanimous ruling among all seven judges, the Supreme Court hinted Friday that it would strike down the ban when it takes up the issue in January.
"The state has advanced a number of arguments, but none of them overcome this reality: Same-sex couples who cannot marry are not treated equally under the law today," the court ruled. "The harm to them is real, not abstract or speculative."
A few New Jersey towns had already started accepting applications for marriage licenses in anticipation of the ruling, NBC New York reported.
Democratic Sen.-elect Cory Booker, the former mayor of Newark, not only welcomed the order but offered to help same-sex couples tie the knot.
"For more than seven years, Mayor Booker has refused all requests to officiate New Jersey marriages because gay couples have been denied that equal right," Booker's office said in a statement. "After today's wonderful news, Mayor Booker is excited to marry both straight and gay couples in City Hall on Monday morning beginning at 12:01 a.m."
The state Supreme Court first ruled in 2006 that same-sex couples were entitled to the same rights and benefits as heterosexual couples get, which led the Legislature to create civil unions in 2007.
The six same-sex couples who challenged the civil union law earlier this year argued that the U.S. Supreme Court changed federal and state laws when it stuck down the Defense of Marriage Act, saying the federal government must recognize same-sex marriages in the states where they are legal.
M. Alex Johnson of NBC News, Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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I believe that the new senator from NJ Cory Booker said he was not going to Washington until after he married several couples on Saturday.
Go, Booker Go.
River
Go, Booker Go.
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http://news.yahoo.com/hawaii-lawmake...015250185.html (http://news.yahoo.com/hawaii-lawmakers- ... 50185.html)
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Thank you
"HONOLULU (Reuters) - Hawaii, which had a pioneering role in the acceptance of same-sex matrimony in the United States two decades ago, could become the 15th state to extend marriage rights to gay couples when state lawmakers meet this week for a special session."
Best Moi
Moi is on unpaid vacation so he sent me this to upload and I do so gladly.
River
Please create a good upload of it for me.
Thank you
"HONOLULU (Reuters) - Hawaii, which had a pioneering role in the acceptance of same-sex matrimony in the United States two decades ago, could become the 15th state to extend marriage rights to gay couples when state lawmakers meet this week for a special session."
Best Moi
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Riverwind (imported) wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:40 pm http://news.yahoo.com/hawaii-lawmake...015250185.html (http://news.yahoo.com/hawaii-lawmakers- ... 50185.html)
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Thank you
"HONOLULU (Reuters) - Hawaii, which had a pioneering role in the acceptance of same-sex matrimony in the United States two decades ago, could become the 15th state to extend marriage rights to gay couples when state lawmakers meet this week for a special session."
Best Moi
Moi is on unpaid vacation so he sent me this to upload and I do so gladly.
River
Am I back ? ?
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Yes Moi it looks like your back, but who uses such old cell phones anymore.
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Moi and I do, two reasons for this, we don't have any idea how the new ones work without a rotor and were both real cheep.
River
Three reasons,
The old one still works.
River
Three reasons,
The old one still works.
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Riverwind (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:17 pm Moi and I do, two reasons for this, we don't have any idea how the new ones work without a rotor and were both real cheep.
River
Three reasons,
The old one still works.
Somewhat correct.
I like big solid buttons that move because of my "Essential Tremor".
I never liked the way a cell phone worked against my head. No not the EMF but the feeling the speaker and ear piece are misaligned. Problem solved - I use it on "speaker". So much easier.
And of course I don't want involvement with texting, tweeting or anything other then the basic telephone call. No message function either.
Strangely, every few months, SPRINT keeps turning them on. I just ignore them after repeatedly doing battle to have those functions turned off.
The idea that my cell phone can double as a camera or video recorder is jaw dropping. No Way !
Moi
so old, so very old
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Cameras are for taking pictures, phones are for talking, one comes with a lens the other a mouth peace and a place for your ear, MOI has it right.
We totally agree on this.
OMG did I just say that?????
A couple months ago a friend finally got a hold of me and asked why I did not read my text message and get back with him? the truth of the matter is that I have no clue how to get to my messages on the phone, nor do I care.
River
A phone is a devise that you buy for your use, you pay for its service and anybody that calls you and disturbs you should pick up your bill for its use.
We totally agree on this.
OMG did I just say that?????
A couple months ago a friend finally got a hold of me and asked why I did not read my text message and get back with him? the truth of the matter is that I have no clue how to get to my messages on the phone, nor do I care.
River
A phone is a devise that you buy for your use, you pay for its service and anybody that calls you and disturbs you should pick up your bill for its use.