Goji berries regulate blood clots.
Sweet thing too is that if you buy them at a local chinese food store(I go to one a few blocks near my college campus)
they cost astronomically less when dried like raisins.
They're called "Lycium barbarum" or chinese wolfberry.
If you buy as Goji berries from a supplement store it'll run you $20 a pop.
But as lycium $4-5 for a decently sized bag of dried clumped fruit
For those considering a natural blood thinner
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This thread bothers me. I don't share your belief that herbs and natural treatments are intrinsically safer than pharmaceutical drugs, but I wouldn't care to argue that question. But a couple of points should be made. One is that everything has side effects, whether drug or herb. People have died from the side effects of herbs, (such as ephedra) In many cases, if they are safer than drugs, it is because they are much less potent. And they have not been tested for effectiveness, safety, potency or dosage. This advice is probably safe if you are replacing the daily aspirin often recommended. But more potent anti-coagulants are prescribed for life threatening conditions such as stroke and blood clots. If your natural treatment were effective and you added it to the prescriptions you were taking, the combined effect could cause you to bleed severely from a small cut and bruise easily, and if the treatment were less effective and you tried to substitute this for the prescription drug, you could end up with not enough protection and die of a stroke. In short, if you seriously need blood thinners, do this in consultation with the doctor treating you. When he asks you what drugs you are taking be sure to include herbs and natural cures. Many of them interact with other drugs.
And I don't think this is the proper forum for this subject. The claim you make is forbidden to the manufacturers of health foods, unless they have conducted (expensive) USDA approved drug tests. Oatmeal manufacturers were fined for claiming that oatmeal could treat cholesterol, because that put it into the class of a drug. There are people who would like to shut down the EA and I think we should be very careful to avoid any appearance of giving actual medical advice.
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And I don't think this is the proper forum for this subject. The claim you make is forbidden to the manufacturers of health foods, unless they have conducted (expensive) USDA approved drug tests. Oatmeal manufacturers were fined for claiming that oatmeal could treat cholesterol, because that put it into the class of a drug. There are people who would like to shut down the EA and I think we should be very careful to avoid any appearance of giving actual medical advice.
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that's fine you don't share my belief transward but I prefer to stick to natural remedies till all natural remedies are exhausted. But yes herbs have side effects.
i believe in preventative medicine.
I agree with you 100% fully that herbs and natural sources should never be combined with prescription meds. Molecular Compounds from both can interact and results can be ugly.
i believe in preventative medicine.
I agree with you 100% fully that herbs and natural sources should never be combined with prescription meds. Molecular Compounds from both can interact and results can be ugly.
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Anti-coagulants are not good for everybody.
Even some who have heart issues.
Even some who have heart issues.
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Sweetpickle (imported) wrote: Fri May 31, 2013 4:55 pm Anti-coagulants are not good for everybody.
Even some who have heart issues.
It's good to be informed there are options on the table when early coronary attacks occur as a result of hormonal spikes, LDL fat, and conditions that would otherwise cause DNA to start behaving erratically. Certain people are predisposed to thrombosis.(Factor V Leiden sugar encoding on the DNA. It just means to be prepared when it switches on if you posses such a mutagen).
I never said that I won't rely on thyself for medicinal knowledge. That in itself is preposterous but I will seek the right doctor's when it comes to natural aspects in medicinal remedies. Hrt is a serious thing not to toy around with and I have every right to assess what is potentially healthy and not healthy for me.
I don't trust the FDA. When I hear from organizations evaluating health that it's ok to introduce a grotesque degree of silicon dioxide into that nice "wendy's chilli". frankly they have gone too far.
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foxytaur (imported) wrote: Fri May 31, 2013 6:31 pm I don't trust the FDA. When I hear from organizations evaluating health that it's ok to introduce a grotesque degree of silicon dioxide into that nice "wendy's chilli". frankly they have gone too far.
Silicon dioxide, aka silica is found in nature as sand or quartz,
A study that followed subjects for 15 years found that higher levels of silica in water appeared to decrease the risk of dementia. The study found an association between an increase of 10 milligram-per-day of the intake of silica in drinking water with a decreased risk of dementia of 11%.
So Wendy's chili is a natural remedy for prevention of dementia?.
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It is beneficial to an extent, hence moderation and even fruits and veggies posses this compound, but fast food takes it up a notch. My problem isn't the compound so much as FDA and other health organizations deeming things safe for consumption despite the inconsequential effects of consuming something longterm. Some studies are funded privately, no doubt the same evil big corps risking their necks if truths are exposed. This is almost as bad as dasani or aquafina marketing their water as pure 100% natural when in fact a large portion of that water is really tap water. Also worth noting the cancer effect from bottled water comes from the plastic PVC slowly dissolving into the water.
Try leaving bottled water in your car on a sunny day and come back the next day and drink from it. It tastes funky and leave it in for a few weeks and a very slight discoloration occurs.
The same companies ignore the small guy as usual. Too busy to count their bucks let alone their pocket change.
The truth is longterm studies on products are never long enough. We've seen food go down in terms of safety for yr's, and is possibly set on getting worse,......meh.....I'll say this. pick your poison. We'll all deteriorate at some point. It helps to minimize the risk but really there is no way that we as people are gonna eat like our grandfathers did in the past. That is the absolute truth.
Try leaving bottled water in your car on a sunny day and come back the next day and drink from it. It tastes funky and leave it in for a few weeks and a very slight discoloration occurs.
The same companies ignore the small guy as usual. Too busy to count their bucks let alone their pocket change.
The truth is longterm studies on products are never long enough. We've seen food go down in terms of safety for yr's, and is possibly set on getting worse,......meh.....I'll say this. pick your poison. We'll all deteriorate at some point. It helps to minimize the risk but really there is no way that we as people are gonna eat like our grandfathers did in the past. That is the absolute truth.
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Water bottles are not made from PVC (and it is not soluble in water), they are made from lavsan (PET).
The danger comes not from the plastic itself, but from remains of free monomers and plasticizers.
The danger comes not from the plastic itself, but from remains of free monomers and plasticizers.
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It's not that I have anything against being vegan (I quite possibly eat more molasses oatmeal and also chili beans than anyone here) or that I have anything against natural remedies (I know quite a few myself) or even natural living (I've woken up many times to take a quick stroll outdoors in order to sit on a brisk cold seat) it's just that many people just do not seem to me to come across as knowing what "natural" is and the resons for being "natural" are. It's as natural as hemlock or so the saying goes. Usually most drugs can be made yourself at great expense and time but the question becomes: what for? Have other things to do with my time and I just don't have a lot of money either. Many drugs I know or can find out the chemistry behind them especially thanks to wikipedia. I really do know of someone that actually succeeded in almost totally elliminating salt from their diet. She's dead.