Can castration cause one to become transgendered?

[janekane (imported)]

No, Castration does not cause one to be transgender.I was castrated by accident and was a well adjusted Eunuch for over five years. I am now fully transgendered and enjoy being a woman. After my initial surgery (castration) I was left permanently impotent because of damage to my penis. I was put on bi-weekly Testosrerone injections. That almost sent me crazy with all the desires of a man and none of the ability to get relief. I stopped and adjusted and settled into the life of an assexual eunuch with absoletly no libido and would have continued until I ran into oestoporosis. I could not contemplate going back on T. I started on Estrogen and immediately liked the mental and physical effects. I began to develop breasts. They erupted very quickly and within three months I really needed a B cup bra and I could not hide them even under baggy clothes. I decided to go the full distance, went on full HRT, breasts went to a D cup the same as my sister and mother. I had trans surgery in Thailand and am enjoyong my life now. I can now orgasm for the first time since i was castrated. It is different to what I remember but is very enjoyable. Had I had a better experience with Testosterone I would never have taken Estrogen but I certainly have no regrets. I am still attracted to women only as,while I was a man ,I was totally straight. As a Eunuch I had no sexuality but my orientation was straight. Nothing changed in that department. I am now in a relationship with a natal woman. Castration did not cause me to become a woman but bone problems put that option to me and I took it.

I continue to ponder human biological diversity. It is my nearly lifelong experience that what seems to "cause" something for one person often does not "cause" it in someone else.

With my long years of hanging out with very biologically diverse people, I have known folks who, because of prostate cancer, were castrated and kept living for many years, some of whom experienced becoming functionally transgendered after their castration, whereas others had no such experience.

My view of a complete answer to the question originally raised by Hash is, "Sometimes yes, sometimes no, sometimes something other than yes or no."

Were I ever to be in a witness box in a court of law, and asked a question that did not make much sense to me, and ordered by a judge to "answer yes or no," my answer might be, "Yes or no?"

To which the judge might say to me, "I ordered you to answer yes or no."

To which I might reply, "That is exactly what I did."

Checkmate? In chess, I understand that "checkmate" is a mangled version of "Shah mat," meaning, "the king is dead." Fortunately, a chess piece king was never actually alive as a king? So, "checkmate" is not murder?

In the manner of a Jeopardy television show question, "What is contempt of court?"

[feedback (imported)]

Castration might not cause one to be transgendered but it certainly changed the way I look at sex and people and how I feel about both. I lived to long without T and when put on full replacement could not deal with all the sexual desires and had to lower my T drastically. Before my medical problems I was a full blown red neck and as straight as they come. Without T I have come to enjoy the beauty in both sexes and although I have never been with a man still find them as sexually attractive as women. I like Hash would like to have a reroute done and my penis removed so I was completely asexual as that is how I feel. If I were not married I probably would have tried estrogen because I feel I lean more to the fem side if any. If I could get my wife to understand how I feel I would actively pursue these changes.

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

Lots of clever folks here, so this regular ol' nutless one needs to take care: I am struck how life is often in stages, and events including many birthdays bring on new stages. So, changes with age are not unusual, and I suspect changes with castration also. Part of my sexuality is in my brain, telling how to relate to the world, but i am aware that this and other cues tell the world how to relate to me. While my T is within normal limits, I feel the same straight attractions as ever, and the world appears to react as ever it did. There was a brief period when I had no HRT and I noticed first that I continued for months to view the world, straight as before. However, I also became aware that skin oils and odor changed from the familiar to something not like me at all. Not unpleasant, or stinky, just different. At this time it was clear that relations with male and female became different. To males, the usual mix of fellowship and competitive confrontation gave way to something between indifference and almost exclusion. To women, the temptation to flirt, even mildly, vanished completely but was not replaced by increased inclusion -as might be expected by a move from M->E->F. Maybe pheromones have more to do with the human animal too. I suspect that there is less of a simple continuum of sexuality that hormonal changes can slide back and forth. So I became less male, more eunuch, and not female.

Now I am older, more established as eunuch, I can see such states as nullo and TG from maybe closer than before. If i wanted them, I feel they are now more accessible than before castration.

So, for my 2 cents, yes loss of balls +/- T can change one's place in the world, and so can the passage through life. These are changes to be embraced and to give opportunities of enjoying another facet of life's rich pattern. For now it's good to be a eunuch, and tomorrow, who knows?

[Riverwind (imported)]

WHAT? Castration take care of a problem between your legs, your gender is between your ears.

River

[Hash (imported)]

WHAT? Castration take care of a problem between your legs, your gender is between your ears.

River

Not that simple River, as was explained previously by Daifu and others.

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

Not so easy, I think. External genitalia can be modified, pruned -all cosmetic?

I like to think that what passes for a brain orders my life. (Used to be balls.)

In turn, it has many inputs, sensory (? incl stink), hormone and social interaction.

We are complex creatures. -And maybe so are gender and sexuality.

[Hash (imported)]

littletits, by your comments you're showing that castration can lead to transgender characteristics. Think about what you said. You were castrated, you lived as a eunuch for over 5 years. So what motivated you to change and decide to become a woman? You were left impotent because of damage to your penis? Then you couldn't take the testosterone injections, they made you crazy because you couldn't get any relief? Is that why you decided to become a woman? You couldn't get relief? No sex-change doctor would allow you to use that as a reason to become a woman. So you started taking estrogen and you liked the effects of it. So then estrogen started to change the way you thought and that's why you decided to become a full-fledged woman? So maybe castration didn't cause you to become transgendered, but it sure played a role in it. If you hadn't been accidentally castrated, would you still be a man?

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

A Friday, and I find myself agreeing with Hash! -I also understand LT's view. I don't know what it is, but there is something other than T that goes with the balls. Whatever it is, it accounts for the differences in us who have normal HRT T levels but still find differences in hair pattern, ED, and mental outlook. If I had not written down thoughts of years ago, I would not have believed how my views on TG/TV, same sex marriage, castration, penectomy & reroutes, the nullo condition have all changed from varying degrees of no, to degrees of acceptance of all of these. The most remarkable change is to be able to imagine one's self related to these in a way unthinkable before. The change happened slowly, almost imperceptibly, and I think largely independent of the change in mainstream values in recent years. No, I believe that medicinal T is not a complete reversal of the effects of castration. I am happy now, and enjoy my changing view of the changing world.

[littletits (imported)]

Hash,If I had not been castrated I would without doubt still be a man. While intact I enjoyed being a man and the idea of becoming a eunuch or a woman never entered My head. I decided to try estrogen for a medical problem. I did not want to go back on T unless I could not handle the E. I found I liked it and suddenly I had full breasts,a well rounded butt and girly looking legs. It was impossible to conceal by expanding jiggling bust under clothes and for any physical activity of more than walking a Bra was a must I had a choice either to have a mastectomy and continue outwardly as a male of embrace the other option of becoming a woman. Since I never could be a man again becoming a woman was my preferred option and I have no doubt that it was taking E that changed my thinking to a more female thouht process. My doctor took some convincing at first but is now fully supportive. Yes castration played a role in my transgender but If I had better experience with T injections I am sure I would be taking them. It was without doubt the right decision. Once a man and in particular a eunuch takes estrogen his thought processes are permanently altered to the female pattern.

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

Hash, what do you think? I suspect that the eunuch begins to think differently from the start, gradually more so. Maybe LT's bra was assured from the start, just a matter of time.

A while back, Nick Connor noted from the Samui Clinic: "NULLIFICATION

(Total Penectomy) The removal of the penis is desired by some males. Occasionally ' Eunuchs' desire

penis removal later after having been so for several years...." This would suggest that LT might have woken up one day as a nullo rsther than a woman. Could the E have made the particular difference, but there was going to be a difference anyway? -but then we'd have missed out on the tits. What do you think, LT? could you see yourself nulled instead?