Advice Needed

[jorbie77 (imported)]

Hello -

My name is Derek, I am a 36 year old high school teacher, and I am thinking about castration. I am male, identify male and am straight. Here is my story....please let me know what you think I should do:

About 3 years ago I started taking Propecia, for my mild hairloss. After less than a year on the drug, I began having horrible side effects. Panic attacks, insomnia, sexual dysfunction including a completely numb penis, low libido and very little cum. I stopped the Propecia and the symptoms went away for about a month - I figured I dodged a bullet. But then, out of the blue, my world came crashing down around me and the old symptoms returned with a vengeance. Helpless against the panic attacks, depression and other problems, I considered suicide. Eventually the panic attacks stopped, but I am now 2 years off Propecia and am still an low libido, little cum making, numb penised insomniac. And the dagger in my back - and the other victims of Propecia - is that Merck knew about these side effects for years and failed to add a warning to the US medicine. They added a warning to the European version about the permanent side effects, but waited over 3 years to include the same warning on the US brand. It was during those 3 years that I began taking Propecia.

So I am essentially chemically castrated, right? These symptoms - low libido, penis numbness, little cum - don't they all happen to a castrated male? I have come to accept my current state - and think that maybe a physical castration would be the way to go - at least I would get the BENEFITS of castration as well. As it is now - my T level is around 600 ng/dl - but my body can't process the T. Should I go the whole way? I am considering TRT anyways - not that it will help - but maybe it can. Any advice?

[raymar2020 (imported)]

Derek,

Do your research , there are some drugs that can help with processing Testosterone. They should help to negate some of the effects you are describing. Increasing your testosterone level could help as well. It may be that you need a higher level than the average person.

Surgical castration is a serious thing to consider. Once done it is NOT reversible. I would not be in a hurry to head in that direction, since obviously you are having all the negative symptoms of castration. See an endocrinologist for sure. They can work wonders with balancing hormones and may be able to get you back on track to being who you want to be.

To all readers, do NOT ever take Propecia. The stuff should be outlawed. Merck has a really bad one there. Tell your friends and anyone who is considering taking it that the risks are just not worth the little it can do for hair loss.

Back to Derek, be aware that taking a testosterone supplement may increase your hair loss.

Raymar

[kristoff]

What Raymar said! And sue the bastards if you can. They deserve to lose a lot for stuff like this.

[jorbie77 (imported)]

I have tried to find this out through my own research - I read Castration by V. Cheney - but he doesn't mention it. Are the side effects of penile numbness and insomnia, in particular, common with a castrated man?? Also - the crazy part of PFS (Post Finasteride Syndrome - the Propecia disease) is that I haven't really responded to TRT. It just doesn't work for the guys who have PFS for some reason. I know castration is severe - but I feel that if I cut my nuts off - it will give ME control over the situation - it won't be that a drug company screwed me out of quality of life - I can let go of that and accept that I made the decision to become a eunuch. Raymar and Kristoff - thanks for you posts. I have much to ponder....

[kristoff]

I have tried to find this out through my own research - I read Castration by V. Cheney - but he doesn't mention it. Are the side effects of penile numbness and insomnia, in particular, common with a castrated man?? Also - the crazy part of PFS (Post Finasteride Syndrome - the Propecia disease) is that I haven't really responded to TRT. It just doesn't work for the guys who have PFS for some reason. I know castration is severe - but I feel that if I cut my nuts off - it will give ME control over the situation - it won't be that a drug company screwed me out of quality of life - I can let go of that and accept that I made the decision to become a eunuch. Raymar and Kristoff - thanks for you posts. I have much to ponder....

I have never heard of any castrated men acquiring numbness in their penis as a result of castration. Same goes for insomnia. Of course, who is to know, but someone will make a liar out of me. I know one man, and have chatted with a couple other men who have experienced PFS, as you call it (haven't heard that name before), and none of the three gain any benefit from HRT. It would seem like they are somewhat immune to their own testosterone, let alone exogenous T. I suspect you would find castration to be more of a psychological answer as opposed to physical. Besides, who knows what other benefits the existing T might provide - there is still a lot that is not known about hormones. And TRT is NOT the same as the real thing. I would suggest that other than an endocrinologist, you might like to have some sessions with a psychologist and work some of this out in other ways, if possible. If nothing else, the psychologist can help you grow assured of your decision. No matter how prepared you believe you are, most are not and require substantial adjustment.

K

[Paolo]

It sounds to me like you have a career, and a good one at that, since you take the time to mention it.

This is a harsh thing to deal with, especially if you didn't expect or want it.

But nothing, this included, is worth taking your own life over.

Hang around here, and feel free to contact any of us.

That's what we're here for.

[butterflyjack (imported)]

I take 5 mgs of Finasteride daily for a swollen prostate...Am I at risk for these side effects? (I believe it's the generic equivalent of Propecia)..I've been on it for over a year..

I like some of the symptoms...and couldn't care less about impotency...but what else in the way of harm can I expect? Thanks, and I wish you well..Jackie

[erikboy (imported)]

Are the side effects of penile numbness and insomnia, in particular, common with a castrated man??

I do not know know how common penile numbness and insomnia is among castrated men, but these are sideeffects many have reported. I did experience dificulties to fall asleep and some penile numbness myself during my veri short androcur trial peiod.

[jorbie77 (imported)]

The issues with Propecia don't occur with every man...in fact, some estimate it is only 1 out of 100. But there is no way of telling if you are the 1, or the other 99. Young men, IMO, should never take this drug as it is like playing Russian Roulette with your sexual and mental health. If you take if for your prostate, then maybe its worth the risk. Just go to propeciahelp.com and you can read about some of the men suffering because of Propecia.

Paolo - thanks for the encouraging words! I am not suicidal anymore - I got past that stage(I hope....)but now am just trying to come to terms with the thought that I may never feel my penis again, or even want to use it. The low libido has taken quite a bit of zest out of life. But I am glad this community is here to help each other....as I think more about castration - I might have more questions. It is interesting, though, that eunuchs don't experience penis numbness. I just thought my numbness was do to my low T. Interesting.....

[kristoff]

The issues with Propecia don't occur with every man...in fact, some estimate it is only 1 out of 100. But there is no way of telling if you are the 1, or the other 99. Young men, IMO, should never take this drug as it is like playing Russian Roulette with your sexual and mental health. If you take if for your prostate, then maybe its worth the risk. Just go to propeciahelp.com and you can read about some of the men suffering because of Propecia.

Paolo - thanks for the encouraging words! I am not suicidal anymore - I got past that stage(I hope....)but now am just trying to come to terms with the thought that I may never feel my penis again, or even want to use it. The low libido has taken quite a bit of zest out of life. But I am glad this community is here to help each other....as I think more about castration - I might have more questions. It is interesting, though, that eunuchs don't experience penis numbness. I just thought my numbness was do to my low T. Interesting.....

At 600 ng/dl you do NOT have low T - the question is, can your body use it?