Who Treated American POW's Better

[moi621 (imported)]

The Civil War did include a system of paroling POW's if they promised to no longer fight.

Either when the Parole System broke down or it was advantageous to deny the enemy any man power you could, the first generation of POW camps evolved. Previously there were the British Prison ships that did not offer very good conditions either during the Revolutionary War.

Before that a victor might mutilate a POW before releasing guaranteeing their inability to fight again.

Check out what the Byzantines did to the Bulgars for an extreme example.

Moi

History, not herstory

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

My first wife's father was a veteran of the war in the Pacific. Up until the day he died he could not stand to speak face-to-face with someone who was Japanese or whom he perceived to be Japanese. When my oldest son (a career Marine) married a woman from a Japanese-Hawaiian family they had to convince him that she was from The Philippines even though the rest of us thought of her as American. He knew how this made him look to others but because of his war experiences he could not overcome his attitude. I often wondered what happened to give him such a powerful dislike for Japanese people so many years after the war. --FLO--

[moi621 (imported)]

Last time I checked, which was in the 80's.

The Japanese are still racial supremest.

An acquaintance who was a TB infected kid at the time of his childhood during WW2

and lost his father in the war, who credits MacArthur for saving his life and controlling his TB into remission - in the early 80's he explained to me how AIDS had not touched Japan because of their superior genetics. I knew him since the late fifties when my Uncle sponsored him to study in America and his repeated visits.

With Bushido business practices, recognize it is a culture and "Beware".

Moi

Fan of "Rising Sun"

BTW when Benihana was worth the money, the chefs were Japanese who

lived in Benihana employee colonies. Thanks to changes it became a chain of ptomaine palaces.

[Arab Nights (imported)]

My Dad's kind of like that, Uncle Flo. But it is his makeup. He hates easily. Because of WW II, he would never consider buying a Jap car, ever. Yet, the funny thing, is that among his best friends growing up was a Japanese-American couple. They were really hard working and were in America before the war. So maybe he was not quite so extreme that he would not look at a Japanese face.

I hate to say it, but I have thought that death has its uses - like cleaning the slate so the world can get on. Otherwise we are like a bunch of Southerners still thinking the Civil War was yesterday or Greeks thinking their last war with Turkey was last week.

[gareth19 (imported)]

What southern terrorists are you talking about?

River

The ones who opened fire on American soldiers and attempted to destroy the government and Constitution of the United States, what other ones were there?

[moi621 (imported)]

The ones who opened fire on American soldiers and attempted to destroy the government and Constitution of the United States, what other ones were there?

You mean those Americans defending their homes and rights against Yankees who bled them dry via tariffs the preceding decades?

And after the "War for States' Rights", those Yankees went on to call it, Reconstruction.

Complete with carpetbaggers.

Who we talking about gareth? Why do I reference, doom and Darth Vadar breath sounds around

Federals? Go figure.

Federals are never happy with what they have and always, steadily, devour more from people and their States.

Moi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LQfRXalvHQ

Listen to the words!

BTW what was the Bonnie Blue flag that bears a single star? Do YOU know?

[gareth19 (imported)]

And after the "War for States' Rights",

What states' rights are you talking about? Please clarify. Do you honestly think that Abe Lincoln had sinister designs on Ashley Wilkes's right to marry his cousin Melanie Hamilton and produce more inbred children? Do you really think the Republicans intended to curtail Arkansas's right to determine the opening of possum hunting season? Just what precious "right" was endangered in 1861 that it justified killing American soldiers?

[moi621 (imported)]

What states' rights are you talking about? Please clarify. Do you honestly think that Abe Lincoln had sinister designs on Ashley Wilkes's right to marry his cousin Melanie Hamilton and produce more inbred children? Do you really think the Republicans intended to curtail Arkansas's right to determine the opening of possum hunting season? Just what precious "right" was endangered in 1861 that it justified killing American soldiers?

The rights of people and States to take part in "Free Trade"

unencumbered by import and export Yankee tariffs

forcing trade with New England as opposed to England

draining the national wealth from rural folk to New England.

And as far as Abe toward Askley, absolutely.

Same for Arkansas too.

Remember Ruby Ridge, those Federals are

doom and Darth Vadar breath sounds!

What are you gonna do when they come for you?

I refuse to be baited into anymore off topicalness.

Your last word, G.

Moi

Don't lite my fuse.

Or push my buttons this late at night.

[considering (imported)]

My first wife's father was a veteran of the war in the Pacific. Up until the day he died he could not stand to speak face-to-face with someone who was Japanese or whom he perceived to be Japanese. When my oldest son (a career Marine) married a woman from a Japanese-Hawaiian family they had to convince him that she was from The Philippines even though the rest of us thought of her as American. He knew how this made him look to others but because of his war experiences he could not overcome his attitude. I often wondered what happened to give him such a powerful dislike for Japanese people so many years after the war. --FLO--

This is not an isolated case; My uncle had been on the bombed carrier Enterprise and reviled anything even vaguely Japanese to his death. At one point when my cousin, his son, was attending Stanford, he was ordered to drop a Chem. class as it was taught by someone who was Japanese.....

[Jack 4321 (imported)]

My first wife's father was a veteran of the war in the Pacific. Up until the day he died he could not stand to speak face-to-face with someone who was Japanese or whom he perceived to be Japanese. When my oldest son (a career Marine) married a woman from a Japanese-Hawaiian family they had to convince him that she was from The Philippines even though the rest of us thought of her as American. He knew how this made him look to others but because of his war experiences he could not overcome his attitude. I often wondered what happened to give him such a powerful dislike for Japanese people so many years after the war. --FLO--

Hi Fella

Your thread illustrates/personalises the unrelenting hostility that WWII vets seem to have for the WWII Japanese - maybe simply because of the widely-known examples of brutality routinely visited on them as prisoners of war.

(Think of the death marches, mistreatment &c of US forces captured after the fall of the P'pines to the Japan in 1940-1942 for example).

As far as I can recall, no such level of hatred ever existed against the WWII German soldiers.

My thread discussing the WWII NZ/Australian belief as to the ethnic cleansing intentions of the Japanese was the stuff of folklore in this part of the world - although that memory has now mostly faded away.

The unspoken belief among ex-NZ/Aust soldiers, that they faced emasculation to breed-out future white generations in this part of the world as well as to become a docile slave labour force to serve the post-WWII Japanese settlers/occupiers in the South Pacific, was well entrenched - hence my focus on the opening lines of the 2004 EA story 'Japanese Prison Camp Penectomy.’

The Japanese genital obsessions about white, African American, as well as other Allied troops, can't have helped but stoke the concerns of NZ/Aust troops as well.

Can Uncle F, or anyone, enlighten or add to the memory that I, and the author of 'Japanese ...' story, have of this fading tribal memory of WWII vets regarding emasculation. Or maybe it's just an urban myth after all.

Look forward to reading comments.

Jack 4321