Cheetaking243's Official Hormone Trial!

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Also, re-reading all of these old entries, one thing was COMPLETELY consistent. I have never had a SINGLE doubt in regards to the physical changes. And even in the midst of my most severe depressive bouts, I NEVER felt conflicted about the physical changes that were happening. Every single time that I noticed things were feminizing, I absolutely gushed about them in my journal. There seriously
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:28 am is not a single moment where
I'm questioning whether the things that I am physically feeling are right or not, and yet there are practically a hundred times where I just went on and on and on about how great the physical changes felt, and about how happy that I was that I was physically feminizing.

And you know what? This is still the case. Despite how much my mind is in turmoil right now, despite how crappy and depressed I've been feeling all week, I feel AMAZING about my body! Just this morning, I woke up, and I realized that I was
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:28 am starting to feel like a girl
physically, with the way that my skin and my fat deposits and my hips were feeling. And it felt GREAT!!! It feels SO GOOD physically to finally be getting a female body, and my conviction on that, since day one, has NEVER changed. And I really do mean NEVER.

So yeah... I'm convinced, even though I am having some SEVERE emotional turmoil right now, and have indeed gone back and forth many times on what my
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:38 am mental gender ident
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cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:48 pm the first time in my entire life.

You know, maybe I really don't fit into this world's binary gender identity molds. Because although my mental gender identity clearly is not 100% female, and seems to fluctuate back and forth depending on my mood and hormone levels, my physical gender identity clearly is 100% female. And this physical gender identity has remained 100% female since the very day that I started puberty back in 7th grade. And while I tend to despise both the male and female social roles equally, and see both good and bad in each, there is NOTHING that I see as being good about the male body, and still so many things about the female body that I envy on a daily basis.

So yeah... there's no doubt about that, I definitely do want to be physically female, and that conviction has not changed whatsoever, and is in fact even stronger than ever now, despite my emotional doubts about taking on the female social gender role.
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Being concerned with your physical gender identity, or as I have seen others put it, your sex identity (http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed ... ment-13903) is, I think, downright typical for transsexuals.

In fact, that's what bothers me about a lot of the more mainstream writings I've found in my country, where it's suggested that transwomen are naturally more like women; in fact, that is how you're supposed to know. So, I thought, wanting a feminine body for myself would obviously make me some kind of weirdo, instead of trans, since I don't know of any women that can talk for hours on end on the finer details of microprocessor design and have fun while doing so, as I am wont to do.

But viewed through the lens of sex identity, my wishes suddenly make sense. That's how I need my body to be in order to feel comfy with it! Or, as my therapist put it, for me, that is perfection. But that doesn't say anything about my gender; it could be "nerd" or for that matter "strawberry flavour". The point is: it doesn't matter, it's a body image thing.
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Yeah... I do think that that is the key, and I do feel like I have finally found the answer to why I have been having ALL of my depressive bouts. And it is that I need to stop looking at my gender identity as binary... that just because I am so positive that I want a female body, that I have to exclusively want a feminine identity also.

Let's be honest, since day 1 of this trial, and even long before, officially identifying myself as "transsexual" meant to me that I was officially changing my own gender identity to be exclusively female. And this is why, whenever I start feeling masculine again, due to hormones or whatever, it makes me SERIOUSLY depressed, just as much as when I used to feel feminine as a guy. Because it is a conflict with my mental gender identity. It feels like a threat to who I am, and as such makes me feel like crap. And let's be honest, looking at my past entries, it is blatantly obvious that my gender identity is NOT fixed. It varies considerably depending on what my hormones are doing. It feels more masculine during rebounds in T levels, and more feminine during the drops in T levels. And these levels are still bouncing around all over the place, so my gender identity is constantly changing. And I am fighting against that. I am trying to make myself feel exclusively female all the time, because that is what it has to be if I am "truly" transsexual. After all, girls aren't supposed to feel like guys!

Well, guess what? Now, I'm not doing it anymore. Today, and for all of the last week, I have been feeling like a guy again mentally. And yes, in all likelihood it really is nothing more than a result of the Spiro not working very well, and my T levels coming back. But here is the important part... it's okay! It's COMPLETELY okay! The depression that I've been feeling is because I WANT to view myself as female, and I'm trying to constantly keep myself in that feminine mindset, and therefore these masculine feelings feel COMPLETELY wrong to me, and like they're a threat. And so I get completely depressed and I start having doubts, because the gender that I'm trying to view myself as suddenly doesn't match the gender that I'm feeling anymore.

But here's the kicker... again, it's okay. I need to just recognize that my gender identity is not fixed. It is fluid. Yes, there are indeed days where I feel like a girl, and feel like being cute and bubbly and filling the world with smiles, and I want to grab my wigs and feel pretty and do girly stuff. But there are also days where I feel more like a guy, where I feel pretty much back to being my old self... "meh" emotionally, and not excited, and I just feel like lounging around the house all day and chilling and don't feel like putting any effort into my appearance, and am perfectly fine just living as a guy. And I need to quit fighting this, and trying to box myself in to exclusively one gender identity and one gender identity only. Because let's face it, I don't have that.

I felt like Carrie almost exclusively for about a month straight. That's fine. Where now I'm back to feeling like Charlie again... feeling almost exactly like I was pre-transition. That's fine too. BOTH of these people are me. And BOTH of them have been manifested over the last 3 months in varying degrees. And the problem isn't that one or the other is "wrong," the problem is when I feel like one, but am still trying to act like the other. So, for the last week, I've been feeling like Charlie again, but still trying to view myself as Carrie. But you know what? I'm done fighting it. Right now, I don't feel feminine anymore, I feel masculine again. And so, in a sense, for the time being I am "detransitioning" in my mind and going back to viewing myself as male identity-wise. But that does not mean that I am giving up or admitting defeat or stopping HRT and going back to being exclusively male. I FULLY expect that my feminine feelings will return very shortly, and I'll go back to viewing myself as Carrie identity-wise. And then once that feminine feeling stops again, I'll go back to viewing myself as Charlie. And in all likelihood, once I go on a higher dose of HRT, and my T levels finally start dropping again, I will indeed go back to viewing myself as Carrie almost exclusively. But again, this is okay. It's not admitting defeat and giving up, it is completely embracing who I am, and what I am feeling on the inside.

And you know what this means? The next time my hormones shift, and I stop viewing myself as the gender that I've felt for a while, it's simple, all I have to do is change my mental gender identity to go with it, so that it matches, and there will be no stress or tension to go with it, because it won't be a threat to who I am, it will just be a part of who I am.

So this is really what is going on. And in the future, I am NOT going to be trying to box myself into feeling only exclusively like Charlie or Carrie. I am going to let my gender identity change, depending on how I am feeling. And let's be honest, right now I'm not feeling feminine. At all. Right now, I'm completely back to being my old self emotionally. Today, I'm not uber-happy, and I don't
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:46 pm feel like dressing up in "girl mode,
" I just feel like my typical "meh" mode, and feel like the same guy I used to be for my first 2 years on this site. But again, it's okay. It's what my hormones are telling me to do, and therefore there is no way that I can fight it, I can only embrace it, and live viewing myself as masculine until my T levels start dropping again.

And you know what? For the first time EVER since going onto this prescription dosage of HRT meds, I am actually feeling like I can wait it out... like it's not the end of the world, and that I really can just be myself and stop worrying, regardless of how I'm feeling. Because there is one VERY important change. My physical body is now indeed no longer exclusively male, and I have lost a TON of weight. And as such, I am now no longer feeli
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:25 am ng like crap about that constantly. Physically,
I am feeling more and more like a girl with every single day, so now I don't feel the pressure to escape my physical reality as much any more, and as such I really do have the freedom to feel like absolutely whoever I want. And it feels great!

Anyway, that's my latest revelation. Hopefully this midset will stay. Because right now I really do feel great again, even though I'm not feeling like a girl mentally anymore. (And again, physically
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:44 am is a whole other matter. I still
feel VERY feminine physically, and I still LOVE it, and it still feels SO AMAZING, even though my mental gender identity is more masculine right now.)

(Side note: thank you for that link to the blog post, Hildy, that was absolutely excellent, especially the part about using various things as outlets to express one's gender identity. I did indeed do that a LOT, to kind of "assert my femaleness." And to some degree, I think my "girl mode" was indeed a way of doing this, which I don't feel the need for as much now that my body really is actually becoming female.)
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UPDATE: about to go in for my 2nd laser hair-removal appointment! YAY!!! (It's at 11:30 this morning.)

The first one, all on its own, took out a good 50% of the stuff. I've barely had to shave at all since about a week after my first session, and my face has been SO smooth compared to how it was. It has only grown back fully in isolated patches. So I am REALLY looking forward to this! If the first session did that much, imagine where I'm going to be after 2! I really am on the path to having a completely hairless, smooth face again! YAY!!!

I also have my 2nd therapy session later today, and I'm sure I'll have WAY more to talk about than I did last week, so I'll post about that too.

Wish me luck! :D

(Side note: after yesterday's revelation about just what it is that makes me transsexual... not necessarily feeling "masculine" or "feminine," but rather the gender identity and sexual identity that I feel deep down, which is indeed female, I am feeling MUCH better. I felt great all day yesterday, and still feel great today even though I'm still feeling "masculine," because now I don't feel like that feeling is a threat to my identity anymore. So this is a TRUE revelation, that I believe has finally cured my awful mood swings and depressive bouts and doubts and uncertainty. So, yeah, my identity, and my future, are set now. Just call me Carrie, and let the changes come! I eagerly await them, and the future that is before me... a future with a body that I finally like!)
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cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:58 pm OFFICIAL HORMONE REPLACEMENT LOG...
MONTH FOUR, DAY TWO:

Well, yay, I have indeed now made it past the three-month mark. But honestly, I really do not feel like celebrating. Because I am now 100% convinced that my T levels have risen back up SIGNIFICANTLY. For the past three months, every single day, I was able to look in the mirror and feel like I was getting more and more feminine with every single day. Every day, my skin looked smoother, my features softened more and more, I started looking more and more young, more and more "cute" instead of like I had the adult angularity in my
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:45 pm face, and I felt more and more feminine. Well, as
of yesterday, for the first time, I looked in the mirror and it looked like that same feminine glow is gone. My face looked more masculine for the first time in three months. I looked older, my brows looked heavier, my face
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:38 am looked more angular, and it just looked
like I had completely lost that feminine "glow." And today, it's gotten even worse
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:08 pm . Every single time I look in the mirror,
all I can see is a guy once more. And I just don't know what's changed. All I know is that, just one week ago, I was feeling very much in the androgynous realm, where now it look
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:30 pm s like I've crossed back into th
e masculine re
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:54 pm alm, and things are starting to go backwar
ds, after three straight months of progress. And this i
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:34 pm s not just my mind playing tricks on me,
seeing things that aren't there because I'm making assumptions that my T levels have gone back up. Because looking back at the pictures that I took just last week, I can indeed still see that "glow," that youth and "cuteness," which I can't see at all in the mirror anymore. So I really do genuinely believe that I am now making negative progress.

Also, I am feeling more masculine in my head than I have since before this HRT regiment even got started. For some reason, I felt like doing things that I have not been interested in in months... playing poker, and playing Magic: the Gathering, and playing video games. Because for some reason, my mind just felt like doing activities that were time-wasters. I didn't feel happy anymore, and didn't feel like going outside. I feel like I'm back in "dull gray drear" mode where I just want to be left alone, and just want to lock myself up in my room all day wasting time in order to cover up my lack of joy. That feminine "happiness" and "brightness" feels completely gone. Again, my mind just feels like it is drifting back into this foggy kind of feeling, where I'm constantly short-tempered, irritable, and only half alive. When I lost at poker, I once again had that "threat to my masculinity" feel where I just wanted to hit my computer and swear at the other person for being stupid. And when my door got stuck, I didn't feel calm about it whatsoever, I spent like 5 minutes yanking and pulling and banging on the damned thing, yelling at it, to try to get it to dislodge. And again, these feelings of compete bitterness and anger and masculine "threat," that feeling like when you fail at something it's a personal attack on you, I have NOT experienced these feelings for SO long, I had completely forgotten about how much I was dying to escape from them in the first place.

I don't feel like a girl anymore. I feel like my old stupid male self. And here's the really strange part... I'm feeling transsexual again. For the longest time, I really wasn't feeling that way anymore, because I felt like my life as a girl had officially begun. Well, now it's gone again. Aside from the feeling of smooth skin, which is indeed still there, I just can't feel any femininity left in me. And for the first time in what's probably a month or more, I am once again feeling gender dysphoria... feeling like what I have is wrong, and seriously wishing that it could be female. I'm right back to envying girls. I'm once again starting to envy absolutely everything about them, and severely wish that I could be one, be
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:30 am cause everything that I have, everything t
hat I feel, is once again starting to feel wrong.

This is it. I cannot wait anymore. I'm going to go ahead and schedule that earlier appointment with my doctor, even though it's only going to be about a week and a half earlier than the one I already have. I don't care. I can NOT put up with this for another whole month. It's becoming blatantly obvious to me that the Spiro is having pretty much NO effect on me whatsoever, and that my T levels have rebounded SIGNIFICANTLY. This is now an entire week in a row where I've felt masculine every single day, and felt like the T levels were rising, without fail. I have not had a SINGLE day where I've felt feminine in the least. And, well, I know I said that I was having doubts a while ago. Well, those are once again gone. Because now that I'm back in this mindset, I have realized VERY quickly what I was so adamant about escaping in the first place. I reported yesterday that I decided I was okay feeling masculine as long as I still had that female sexual identity to anchor me. Well, now you can throw that right out the window. Because as I speak, that female sexual identity is now slipping away from me as I'm making negative feminization progress thanks to T coming back. And again, now that I'm back to feeling this way, I'm remembering very well why I felt such a need to escape it in the first place. This is NOT me. This is not me in any way, shape, or form. Because I'm feeling dysphoric again. I feel like my mind's not working right anymore, and my very happiness is gone, and my very identity is slipping away. I need to get into the doctor's office and FAST, to get my dosage of anti-androgens picked up by a significant margin. Because it's blatantly obvious to me right now that my minimum dose of Spiro is NOT working, and that right now the prescription that I have is pretty much useless. Because after all, E can't even work if T is getting in the way, since they bind to the same receptors. And right now, I seriously feel like the T has become dominant again. It's not quite back up to the same levels that it was at pre-HRT, because I still do feel just a little bit calmer than I did before, and I'm still not back to getting spontaneous erections, at least not like I used to, but still, I can NOT put up with having a T-dominant endocrine system again, and feeling like I'm making negative progress. The prospect of ANYTHING masculinizing again is an absolutely mortifying thought to me.

What the hell was I thinking? How could I POSSIBLY have thought that I didn't want to continue? How could I have POSSIBLY forgotten what this feeling was like, and forgotten how much I HATE feeling male? How could I have possibly forgotten what it's like to not have that feeling of feminine happiness anymore, and that "Sense of self," and the AMAZING feeling that comes from feeling like your body is FINALLY headed in a direction that you actually like? Because I did. I let my doubts consume me, and for a time forgot why I was doing this in the first place. Well, now I remember. I remember quite vividly. Because now I'm stuck right back where I started, and it SUCKS!!! Having not felt gender-dysphoria in so long, I had forgotten what it's like. And again, it SUCKS!!! I NEVER want to have to feel this nightmarish feeling of hating the very thoughts that are in my own head EVER again!!! F*** testosterone. F*** it. F*** every single damned thing to do with it. I'm serious, looking back, every single day that it was at its lowest levels, I felt SO happy, and SO peaceful and calm and content. And ever since it started bouncing back, I have felt absolutely nothing but misery, misery, depression, misery, and more misery.

Anyway, rant over. The only good thing about this is that, for the first time in a while, I am once again 100% sure about my identity as female, and that I really am not going to be truly happy until I'm a woman. I let my doubts consume me. And I let myself fall into despair because I was trying to live up to the ideal image of what I would need to act like as a girl in order to blend in. Well, f*** that. I was wrong. I don't need those things in order to be happy, I just need to be a girl. Deep down, on a core level. And that no longer means that I need to be happy all the time, or bubbly all the time. Because as a girl, I'd still be a real person, and still have the same full range of emotions that I do now. And I don't expect that now. I just want to be able to be myself. Whether that self is feeling silly, serious, excited, tired, happy, sad, feels like socializing, or feels like sitting around watching sports. But one thing is consistent. I want to feel those feelings, and do those things as a girl. Because even though I can do them as a guy, I don't feel happy doing them. I just feel trapped in a bland emotionless nothing, hating my body and hating the very thoughts in my own head.

I did have my second meeting with my therapist today. And basically, I told her that I had been going through a period of doubt, and a period of depression. And at first, I did NOT tell her the revelation that I had come to about why I was feeling this way, I just described the feelings, told the story, and waited to see if she would come to the exact same conclusion that I did. And guess what? She did come to the exact same conclusion. That as a girl, I was trying to live up to unrealistic expectations, and trying to force myself to always be more feminine. And yet, that my identity very clearly was female. And the problem wasn't that, it was that I needed to adjust my views on what being a girl would mean. And I have. And again, now it's gone. Damn it. (My therapist was VERY happy with this session, though. She said that she felt she really got to know me better. And she still feels like I am in a MUCH better position than a lot of her other clients, because she recognizes that I am a VERY honest thinker, one who is constantly thinking about my decisions fully, and is very self-aware and very honest with myself, and she feels like I really do know who I am down on a core level, and that I really don't seem worried about putting on a show just to impress others. She actually said that if I had come in as a girl and been happy and bubbly all the time, and seemed like I had no conflict whatsoever, THAT is when she would have been worried about me.)

We had a wonderful chat about what gender is and what gender isn't. Such as, being an extrovert or an introvert has nothing to do with gender identity. Nor does being neat or sloppy, silly or serious, logical or emotional, thinking or feeling, judging or perceiving, high libido or low libido, active or lazy. These things are independent of gender. Hell, even "masculine" and "feminine" are independent of gender. She talked about how she herself is not very feminine, and a lot of men she knows are way more feminine than she is. But these are all just the things that make us who we are. And if we're believing that we are transgender because we want to change these things, want to be more extroverted, or want to be more emotional rather than logical, or want to be neater rather than sloppy, we are not trying to change our gender, we are trying to change our very selves. And when we try to do that, we are only kidding ourselves. Gender is independent of these things. It is completely based on a self-identity, on a sense of who you are on a deep level, independent of personality, and based on a deep-seeded identity, a feeling of who you are.

For me, I realized, that self is indeed female. But I was indeed trying to change some of these things by transitioning. (Falsely.) And that is what was making me depressed, and why I was having all the doubts I was about how others would perceive me... because the girl I was imagining becoming was indeed someone that I'm not. And so when I imagined it, it felt wrong to me. So what needed to change in order to deal with these doubts was not my gender identity, it's just that I needed to be realistic, and see that girl as being my true self, in every regard of what it means to be me, instead of feeling like I needed to change in order to please others and fit that ideal "feminine" image better. And there really is no doubt that my identity is indeed female... because again, even in the midst of all of these doubts, I still had a VERY deep desire to be female physically.

So therapy really is going EXCELLENTLY. I had a WONDERFUL session today, and it's VERY reassuring to feel like she believes I am indeed on the right path, and that the revelation that I came to yesterday about my gender identity is the exact same one that she did, without me even telling her. And again, our discussion was absolutely wonderful. I am definitely going to keep seeing her every week until this whole hormone issue is sorted out.

Also, I did have my 2nd laser hair removal session today. And it was WAY more painful the 2nd time, because apparently the laser was on a low setting last time, but this time she turned it up to full power because I hadn't had any adverse reaction to it the first time. And man, this time I REALLY felt like I was getting zapped. My lower face was really red afterward, looking like the entire thing was covered in razor bumps. It did, however, diminish after a couple of hours, and is now back to looking pretty much normal, but yeah, this session was definitely not as easy as the last one. I had to put an ice pack on my face for 10 minutes or so afterward to calm the sensation of warmth all over my face down. But nonetheless, the prospect of having a smooth face again is still really exciting. I just wish I could have my feminine skin back to go with it. Laser hair removal just doesn't feel as exciting without the prospect of looking like a girl to go with it.

Anyway, that was today. In terms of self-actualization, and feeling like I know who I am once again, it was AMAZING. In terms of how I actually feel, though, it FREAKING SUCKS!!! I just want to go back to feeling feminine again, as soon as possible. I'll be calling Dr. Weiss again tomorrow, and taking that earlier appointment. Because I can't wait until May 6. And I don't think cutting it short by a couple of weeks could possibly result in anything but less time spent feeling like crap, and less time feeling gender-dysphoric all over again. Because I think it's blatantly obvious that my T levels have rebounded, and a simple blood test should reveal that very quickly so that I can go on a higher dosage of Spiro. (Damned Spiro... I hate you. Why can't you just be Androcur? I KNOW that that stuff works.)
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:43 pm Sigh... anyway, that's it. These n
ext few weeks are going to be a serious test of endurance. Maybe I'll get lucky and the feminine feelings wil
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:10 am l return, but I'm starting to doub
t it more and more with every single day. I've now been feeling more masculine every single day for like an entire week straight, after a month straight of feeling unbelievably feminine while I was still on the full dose of Androcur instead of a half-dose of Spiro. So yeah... sigh... it's going to be hard. It's MUCH harder to put up with this masculine "dull gray drear" mindset now that I know how amazing it feels to escape it. I'm not going to be a very pleasant person for the next few weeks while I'm waiting to go on a higher dose of Spiro.

Anyway, later!

-Charlie/Carrie

(only using both names because I REALLY do not feel like the latter right now emotionally, so it feels like I would be tarnishing her name to use it on such a bitter, angry post.)
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Oh my goodness, I am so far behind! I've been following your blog and have been meaning to comment, but the demands of grad school do not always allow the time for that. Plus the posts keep coming faster than I can comment on them, but that's OK :)

Lately I have been feeling in pretty much the same position that you described (at least in earlier posts - your latest post seems to suggest feeling fully female again, but as I said, I'm behind!) - the one about feeling somewhere in between male and female. I know I am not female, but at the same time, I don't feel entirely male either. I agree with you that gender is often much too compartmentalized. Not everyone is going to identify as exclusively male or exclusively female. I think a lot of times, at least in my case, the stereotypical roles that accompany the definitions of each gender are at least partially to blame. If being a man didn't mean I am expected to behave a certain way, I would probably be more comfortable identifying as one. The strange thing with me is that when I am on T, I am generally content with being male, but when I stop taking it, the gender issues start to pop up.

Spiro is a much weaker antiandrogen than Androcur, and 50 mg is practically nothing. I suspect that you are right about the switch from your own regimen to the one prescribed by your doctor playing a role in what you have been experiencing recently. 4 mg of oral E is not a great deal either. I remember a lab test showing me at 118 pg/ml on 4 mg of oral E, which would be on the low end for a woman. From what I understand, injectable E is the best delivery method for getting levels high, though at one point you seemed to feel pretty good on the pills, so that is something to weigh as well. Also keep in mind that I am not a doctor. so the preceding should not be construed as medical advice!

I think that making an earlier appointment with your doctor would be a good idea. I am a bit surprised that they aren't willing to adjust your dosage over the phone - I have had dosages changed on my medication with a simple phone call to my doctor. But of course your medications have consequences that can be measured by bloodwork while mine does not, so that could be why!

My thoughts are that the negative changes you are seeing in your face really is just your mind playing tricks on you. Changes that dramatic do not happen in just a week, even if your T levels have increased. Plus the kind of mood you are in can play a role in how your face appears. I am sure the "glow" and "cuteness" is still there! :)

As you mentioned, people of all genders feel angry and bitter at times, so just because you are Carrie does not mean you won't have ups and downs, but I certainly hope you are able to once again feel as wonderful as some of your previous posts have described soon!
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^Well, yeah, over the last week or so I have just been writing entries at a mile a minute because my moods have been so wild, and I've been having such a hard time figuring out what the heck the problem was. Thanks for trying to keep up. It does really mean a lot to me that people are indeed reading, and do indeed care, despite how much of a ranty stream-of-consciousness writer I tend to be. It really does make this whole process a whole lot easier when I have such great support.

All right, anyways, in regards to what's going on today, I have good news and bad news.

The bad news is, I'm still not really feeling much better than I have for the last few days straight. I still feel masculine, I still feel completely frustrated, and I still feel like I've completely lost that feminine feeling of happiness that I had taken for granted for so long, but has now been completely gone for an entire week straight. I do feel calmer than I was yesterday, but honestly I suspect it's only because I had a LENGTHY crying session last night where I let all of the pain out by sobbing uncontrollably while I listened to songs of lamentation like "Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again
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z4F_cXGQN9k). And I also had a very emotional prayer session where I basically just asked God to take care of this, to keep me safe, to help me finally reach a place where I feel like myself, and keep me there. So today, it's not like I really feel better, but at least I don't feel as bad anymore, because it does feel like I've finally gotten all of the hurt out of me, and I feel emotionally satisfied with that. I'm at least able to feel non-depressed, and able to go back to my life, even though I'm still feeling pretty bad about the gender situation, and still REALLY miss what I had just a few short weeks ago. But instead of focusing on the pain, focusing on the hurt today, I'm trying to focus on the hope... on the most important thing that I could possibly realize... that this pain is completely 100% temporary. One way or another, I AM going to eventually get on a dosage of Spiro that actually works for me, and I am going to continue transition. This period of T-level rebound is temporary. Very much temporary. In the grand scheme of things, a tiny little blip on the radar. After all, what's a month of feeling like a guy compared to the whole lifetime ahead of me where I'll FINALLY get to be my true self? Thinking about that, focusing on the destination rather than the flat tire that's temporarily knocked me off of the highway, is a BIG help. I feel very hopeful rather than hopeless again. And the reason I was having that borderline-suicidal depressive bout a few days ago was because I did indeed feel hopeless at the time, and let that hopelessness consume me. But that's definitely better now. I know who I am again, and even though it sucks that I can't be her right now, I know what I want, I'm
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it's what I want, and I'm ready to do whatever it takes to make it happen. And it's just a matter of time. This is, in all likelihood, my last year on earth as a male. And that is a VERY awesome thought.

The good news is, I did indeed call Dr. Weiss's office to ask for a sooner appointment. And, well, remember how a couple of days ago I reported that the earliest available appointment was like April 24th? Well, guess what? One just opened up WAY sooner. So now I have moved my blood work appointment up from May 6th, which was still almost a full month away (good God...) to April 18th, next Thursday. So YAY!!! With any luck, I'm only going to have to put up with this damned masculine mindset for one more week. That, I can do. (God, I can't wait... this T level spike SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!! I SO cannot wait to start feeling feminine again. And maybe I finally really will know what my actual blood levels of hormones are, after having not known for sure during this ENTIRE 3-month HRT regiment. Sheesh. That has caused me so much grief and uncertainty, it's ridiculous.)

Anyway, that's it. I am NOT looking forward to work tonight, because I still feel pretty crappy, but it's okay... just one week left of this, and then hopefully I'll FINALLY be back on the path toward feminization after an obnoxious 2-week setback.
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Re: Cheetaking243's Official Hormone Trial!

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Spiro is a rather mild antiandrogen. Have you considered Provera instead? I was taking Spironolactone earlier this year and it did nothing to curb my T level.
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Re: Cheetaking243's Official Hormone Trial!

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Another thought just occurred to me. Perhaps the doctor knew that 50 mg of Spiro was not going to be enough, but because I was a new patient, and becaus
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:50 pm e I didn't have a therapist letter,
and I pretty much just walked in there asking to be put on an HRT prescription, he intentionally started me at low doses, to make sure that I didn't have any adverse reactions first, and to make sure that if it turned out that I wasn't transsexual according to a therapist, that I wouldn't have the potential to be doing any serious damage to myself, or causing substantial changes. That's another possibility that I completely had not considered. So maybe now that I will indeed have a therapist letter, and will indeed have blood pressure readings and T-level tests and real-life experience data to see how I'm responding to the drugs, he will indeed put me on a more normal HRT-appropriate dose. I think that might be a possibility as well. I know that HRT is a touchy thing, one that doctors want to ease people into to make sure they're responding to it okay, and that starting someone on the ABSOLUTE minimum dose is indeed very common, so I think this definitely might be the case, especially since my current doses are pretty much half of the dose of estrogen and one quarter the dose of Spiro that the internet site I got my original doses from in the first place recommends. (It recommends 6-8 mgs of oral Estradiol, and 100-300 mgs of Spiro [saying that 200 mgs is more common], while right now I'm on 4 mgs of estradiol and 50 mgs of Spiro.)

I'll find out next week, I guess. Until then, back to the grind. Hopefully I'll finally be able to chill and quit having to post all of this emotional baggage on this topic every single freaking day.

On a positive note, though, my metabolism is definitely back up. I have had THREE junk days this week due to needing to use food to calm my mind down, plus two questionable meals involving sugary BBQ chicken with potatoes, and carb-infested shepherd's pie covered in potatoes and stuffed with corn, and yet somehow I've still managed to lose 3 lbs. I'm now down to 234.8 lbs, a whopping 11 lbs below the previous lowest weight that I've ever been. And my waist measurement just dropped to 36". So at least I can enjoy having a male metabolism again while it lasts, and not feel guilty eating at the sushi buffet three times within a single week. (It always calms me down.)
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Re: Cheetaking243's Official Hormone Trial!

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Careful with the snacks, carbs and sugar Carrie. You know the drill but of course 50mg of spiro isnt going to do much.

Usually 100mg is the avg or standard. Anything above will render T extremely low.

(I want to go no further than 100mg on spiro btw to achieve good femenization results on a safe highish dose of pure Estradiol beta 17)

T libido doesn't bother me too much. Ive heard gals taking up to 200mg even but told to

reduce foods containing potassium. Avocados and bananas are prime examples)

I know you desire high Spiro but as a diuretic it can raise the amt of potassium in blood stream very very high. Its why it so dangerous to take really high spiro doses.You can get Hyperkalemia if you don't watch out P.

I think this is reason why many TG/S gals opt for alternatives such as cyproterone acetate if T cannot be reduced to desired levels.

(side effects included LOL, you just gotta love them labels)

You were probably recomended to drink lots of water too:D

But yeah your doing the right thing in slowly introducing spiro and E.

Wish you luck Carrie. Please post pics of your status. It offers me hope i'll transition with relative ease too.

Pretty please!!!🙏

NB = High doses of potassium-chloride (Ka+ ions) are injected to prisoners undergoing lethal injection. It's the final injection that kills the host really P. Forces the heart to stop.
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