The Higgs Boson pokes back (oh drat, it's not what you expected)

[Eunuchus (imported)]

Dave, Could there be twin or even triplet universes?

[Dave (imported)]

Dave, Could there be twin or even triplet universes?

Multiple universes are something that's possible but right now we only know they might exist because the mathematics allows there to be multiple universes. Mathematics allow a lot of things like imaginary numbers and square roots of negative numbers.

Right now, with the LHC results pointing to two Higgs Bosons and no models predicting two bosons...

The one model predicts six Higgs Bosons. I would wait until the theoretical guys come up with a new theory to account for that.

I would also wait until the formal announcement of these results. Let's see what pops up like a errant naughty boy when the scientists that know the LHC have to explain these results. For many years I've thought that these tiny particles are really the sperm of mother nature screwing the scientists who dare to try to understand them.

Supersymmetry gives me migraines BTW.

[moi621 (imported)]

Good Going Higgs Boson BELIEVERS, You Have Doomed Us !

http://news.yahoo.com/higgs-boson-parti ... 36961.html

Higgs Boson Particle May Spell Doom For the Universe

" BOSTON — A subatomic particle discovered last year that may be the long-sought Higgs boson might doom our universe to an unfortunate end, researchers say.

The mass of the particle, which was uncovered at the world's largest particle accelerator — the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) in Geneva — is a key ingredient in a calculation that portends the future of space and time. . . . "

The Moister

I think therefore . . .

[Dave (imported)]

Good Going Higgs Boson BELIEVERS, You Have Doomed Us !

...

In another 10 billion years or maybe more...

I can just see an old and hoary and bearded MOI saying "I told you so!"

[foxytaur (imported)]

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/big-crunch ... bounce.jpg

Good Going Higgs Boson BELIEVERS, You Have Doomed

The Moister

I think therefore . . . I will collapse into a "big crunch" from my former self.

NB = in Moi's universe P things start imploding

Sorry Moi you asked for it.

Science comunity : 1

Doomsayers: 0

[BossTamsin (imported)]

I admit, I'm not sure why they keep insisting that it will be billions, if not tens of billions of years before anything might happen. I'd really like more of an explanation on that one. Personally, I would have thought that if the universe is 'metastable', and we are dealing with a false vacuum, then there would be the potential for it to go kablooey at any point in time, given a big enough nudge. (But fortunately that nudge seems to be a few orders of magnitude bigger than anything we're capable of at the moment.)

So why are they so sure about the huge time delay?

[Dave (imported)]

I think that the bubble breaking effect would be at the speed of light and the universe is at least 28 billion light years wide from its center.

How do we know that the speed of light is a constant?

Well we don't but absolutely nothing travels faster than light long enough to un-propagate the metastability.

That sort of makes sense to me...

[Riverwind (imported)]

You know this is one of those pie in the sky things, its fun to talk about but will have no effect on our live or for that matter the lives of our great grand kids. I mean, do we really care?

River

[moi621 (imported)]

You know this is one of those pie in the sky things, its fun to talk about but will have no effect on our live or for that matter the lives of our great grand kids. I mean, do we really care?

River

You become Non Existent and then say "you don't care".

If the Higgs Boson was not thought up, we would not be in this mess.

This faith based particle, The God particle, will be our doom. Our Armageddon.

It should have never been conceived or named. Remember; First is the word.

Moi-sephles

[Losethem (imported)]

We'll know the universe collapsing has started when all the worlds capitols turn into mini black holes.

--LT