Would you get castrated so you could live longer?
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Would you get castrated so you could live longer?
This subject has been discussed before, but it's worth discussing again. It's estimated that eunuchs can outlive intact males by 10-15 years. With that knowledge, would you willingly trade your testicles in for a longer life? I suppose the other question is, "When does one need to be castrated in order to obtain the extra years? I mean, do you have to get castrated early in life in order to get the extra years or can you wait until your 50 or 60?
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Re: Would you get castrated so you could live longer?
Pose the question to Prostate Cancer survivors.
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SplitDik (imported)
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Re: Would you get castrated so you could live longer?
You know, one thing I hate is the way medical intervention interferes with the quality of the final years. I have two coworkers with family going through chemotherapy and from what I hear I'm not sure I would choose it. The choice of surviving is really surviving in horrible circumstance of pain, nausea, wasting, being a burden on the family, etc. and the management of the pain and nausea means you're drugged up constantly.
I think we often fall into a mode of increasingly invasive medicine until we linger in a drug addled state, tied to tubes, trapped in a hospital. I can barely stand visiting a hospital, not sure I want to spend my final days there.
If there is a good chance of just cutting the cancer out, if go for that, but a soon as I knew it was extensive I think you might a well just let it run it's natural course.
So to the initial question, if castration meant living with frail bones, lack of energy, lack of sense of masculinity, becoming physically less fit, I'd rather not have those extra years.
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Re: Would you get castrated so you could live longer?
Be careful what you wish for.
But, no, the need to be a eunuch for me has nothing to do with longevity.
It is all about an overwhelming necessity to be void of sex drive and ability as I have never had any need for it, and thus have craved being rid of it.
But, no, the need to be a eunuch for me has nothing to do with longevity.
It is all about an overwhelming necessity to be void of sex drive and ability as I have never had any need for it, and thus have craved being rid of it.
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Re: Would you get castrated so you could live longer?
Please be careful interpreting these results, there could be an important bias !
The 80 eunuchs from the Chosun Dynasty made a distinct population that did not participate on the daily things intact males had to do.
They ware/are also less aggressive and so they had less chance to die during violent encounters.
Whilst I'm not sure one could extrapolate this results towards present times, a big caveat, should be made.
As stated before:
Once castrated one is sure to have to deal with osteoporosis, fatigue, depression, possible obesity ...
One may live longer, but this is still to be proven with more hard evidence than some historical data.
Take care,
Vesal.
The 80 eunuchs from the Chosun Dynasty made a distinct population that did not participate on the daily things intact males had to do.
They ware/are also less aggressive and so they had less chance to die during violent encounters.
Whilst I'm not sure one could extrapolate this results towards present times, a big caveat, should be made.
As stated before:
Once castrated one is sure to have to deal with osteoporosis, fatigue, depression, possible obesity ...
One may live longer, but this is still to be proven with more hard evidence than some historical data.
Take care,
Vesal.
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Re: Would you get castrated so you could live longer?
My life was spinning out of control so castration did lengthen my life. My behaviors were self destructive due to emotional pain from destructive people. Who knows if castration will lengthen my life but it has increased the quality of life I have left.
I agree with SplitDik that quantity of life without quality is not worth having. I am at a point where they, the medical profession, is all too happy to find cures before they have found a problem. I am keeping my eyes wide open and paying close attention to what my body tells me. I have known more people who died from chemotherapy than from the cancer they were fighting.
I agree with SplitDik that quantity of life without quality is not worth having. I am at a point where they, the medical profession, is all too happy to find cures before they have found a problem. I am keeping my eyes wide open and paying close attention to what my body tells me. I have known more people who died from chemotherapy than from the cancer they were fighting.
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SplitDik (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:38 pm You know, one thing I hate is the way medical intervention interferes with the quality of the final years. I have two coworkers with family going through chemotherapy and from what I hear I'm not sure I would choose it. The choice of surviving is really surviving in horrible circumstance of pain, nausea, wasting, being a burden on the family, etc. and the management of the pain and nausea means you're drugged up constantly.
I think we often fall into a mode of increasingly invasive medicine until we linger in a drug addled state, tied to tubes, trapped in a hospital. I can barely stand visiting a hospital, not sure I want to spend my final days there.
If there is a good chance of just cutting the cancer out, if go for that, but a soon as I knew it was extensive I think you might a well just let it run it's natural course.
So to the initial question, if castration meant living with frail bones, lack of energy, lack of sense of masculinity, becoming physically less fit, I'd rather not have those extra years.
I agree 100%. It's quality of life not quantity of life that matters. Did you think you were going to live 10,000 years?
Assisted suicide is legal in Oregon. If it came down to choosing chemo, with a dubious outlook if I took it, and I was in pain, I would choose to end it all on my terms. Death comes to us all, and in the long run, it's not going to matter whether it's next week or 20 years from now. Death is inevitable. Why fear what one can't avoid?
Right now, the good far outweighs the bad. When it doesn't, I'll think about checking out. If able, when the end approaches, I'll leave explicit instructions to make no heroic efforts to keep me alive a few more days. It's a waste of money, and it only tortures the one that will surely die anyway.
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Re: Would you get castrated so you could live longer?
Hi all im a paramedic here in the UK and I have to say people are loosing their life younger and younger so all I can say is live it to the max every day as tomorrow may never come. I love being a eunuch but that's because it makes me happy to day and that's what maters, yes like us all it would be great to live longer and I hope all my friends on here do but one things for sure most of us wanted to be eunuchs and I know we are all happy now and free of our torments and stresses:)
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Assuming that I was mentally healthy, I would like to live longer, as a eunuch. My children were born in my late 30s and early 40s and I would like to be around for the future grand kids' sake. My grandparents died too early to fully appreciate and learn from them.
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Re: Would you get castrated so you could live longer?
My purpose in being castrated was to improve my chances of living long enough for my wife's and my daughter to finish college; I had, using biological pattern recognition, come to the view that I was a member of a family in which a very pernicious form of cancer was problematic, and I concluded, from a theoretical biology view, that testosterone was unacceptably likely to prevent my lasting long enough to be around when my wife's and my daughter finished college.
My brother died of such cancer before either of his, and his wife's, children finished college.
I did the biological pattern recognition and the theoretical biology astonishingly accurately, in retrospect. Of course, there is that sneaky hindsight bias, that makes people who do not recognize that form of bias think that the a-priori probability of an event is higher than it was if the event happens; I am very resistant to hindsight bias.
Meanwhile, once the cancer risk became high enough in my mind, the fact that I am conveniently transgendered made the orchiectomy far more welcome than I imagine it would ever be for a thoroughly macho male.
The average age of death from familial adenomatous polyposis, the main cancer genetic condition in my family, is 42 years. Thanks to castration and/or colon removal and other surgeries, I am thriving at age 73, and a fair share of my grade school age cohorts have died of old age while I find I am yet decently young.
Of course, I have to allow that I am so delusional that I am incapable of understanding how delusional I am!
I did get castrated so I could live longer.
So, to answer the question, "Would I get castrated so I could live longer?"
No, its too late for me to get castrated. It only works once, absent HRT...
So wie so.
My brother died of such cancer before either of his, and his wife's, children finished college.
I did the biological pattern recognition and the theoretical biology astonishingly accurately, in retrospect. Of course, there is that sneaky hindsight bias, that makes people who do not recognize that form of bias think that the a-priori probability of an event is higher than it was if the event happens; I am very resistant to hindsight bias.
Meanwhile, once the cancer risk became high enough in my mind, the fact that I am conveniently transgendered made the orchiectomy far more welcome than I imagine it would ever be for a thoroughly macho male.
The average age of death from familial adenomatous polyposis, the main cancer genetic condition in my family, is 42 years. Thanks to castration and/or colon removal and other surgeries, I am thriving at age 73, and a fair share of my grade school age cohorts have died of old age while I find I am yet decently young.
Of course, I have to allow that I am so delusional that I am incapable of understanding how delusional I am!
I did get castrated so I could live longer.
So, to answer the question, "Would I get castrated so I could live longer?"
No, its too late for me to get castrated. It only works once, absent HRT...
So wie so.