Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

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I'm glad to know this thread is still alive. I just did did my second injection into my right testicle, with 33% calcium chloride mixed with ethanol 95%. From my experience, the injection itself should be relatively painless (not completely), and if you experience intense pain on insertion, and an even more pain when trying to inject, then you're probably in a bad position. When you get it right, you can fill the testicle and you won't feel anything. The pain was pretty intense afterwards though, about a day of pain in the 8-9 range. As others have said, a hot bath really helps.
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clueless (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:34 am I'm glad to know this thread is still alive. I just did did my second injection into my right testicle, with 33% calcium chloride mixed with ethanol 95%. From my experience, the injection itself should be relatively painless (not completely), and if you experience intense pain on insertion, and an even more pain when trying to inject, then you're probably in a bad position. When you get it right, you can fill the testicle and you won't feel anything. The pain was pretty intense afterwards though, about a day of pain in the 8-9 range. As others have said, a hot bath really helps.

A combo of Tylenol and Advil in sufficient strength is almost as effective in pain relief as narcotics. I found a reference to dosage earlier in this thread.
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This is a very old thread and dig deep enough and the answers are there. I injected first using an equivalent to everclear and later. Calcium chloride. Not just on myself but others. You are going to get pain and swelling with either. The main difference is CC is more effective at necrotising the tissue. Therefore you need less injections. It is hugely risky with either substance. On reflection I was driven and quite psychotic to take the risk. Do I regret it? No. If you really are hell bent on doing this you need to do it in a careful and structured way. Randomly injected into different parts of the testicle is not a good idea as you end up with a patchwork of dead tissue. Testicles are designed to survive, humanity depends on it. They are very resilient and to do this quickly and safely by injection is not easy. Having experimented on myself and learnt, I have helped a few other close friends out and it took far fewer injections. Think about this, the shape the size and what you have to do is tricky and risky. Risky for two reasons. Leakage of calcium coride will kill anything it touches, with alcohol less so. Secondly, there is a risk that the substance will get into your blood stream. Those who have been successful in this endeavour have also been lucky, not clever as you have no way of knowing if you are injecting into the bloodstream before it is too late. A safer technique would be to band the testicle, this will stop adverse flow outside of the desired area. Then inject from pole to pole slowly withdrawing the needle to spread the the fluid. CC will spread quickly and after an hour or so longer be a risk of flowing it will necrotise. Infection of the dead tissue will cause more necrosis, if you get an infection. Remove the band and wait. Doing a testicle injection from pole to mid point each end is usually enough. It is extremely painful and there is a lot of swelling. You need a lot of 'balls' to do this to yourself and you certainly need to trust someone else to do it. I have been lucky with my friends, I was not so lucky on myself I had leakage and got CC in my blood spreading into my abdomen and I had major surgery as a result. I share this because if you are in the frame of mind I was you will have already done all sorts to your genitals. Better to have others experience and learn from it. Would I do it again to myself? Yes, But only knowing what I do now. The only reason I have helped some others is that they may have ended up in a worse state than me if they failed. Is it safe? No. The dilemma is desperate individuals will self harm. Some guys play at it injecting a bit of alcool as some sort of kink. If you are really determined think and be careful. Make sure you have someone on standby.
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jcat (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:07 am This is a very old thread and dig deep enough and the answers are there. I injected first using an equivalent to everclear and later. Calcium chloride. Not just on myself but others. You are going to get pain and swelling with either. The main difference is CC is more effective at necrotising the tissue. Therefore you need less injections. It is hugely risky with either substance. On reflection I was driven and quite psychotic to take the risk. Do I regret it? No. If you really are hell bent on doing this you need to do it in a careful and structured way. Randomly injected into different parts of the testicle is not a good idea as you end up with a patchwork of dead tissue. Testicles are designed to survive, humanity depends on it. They are very resilient and to do this quickly and safely by injection is not easy. Having experimented on myself and learnt, I have helped a few other close friends out and it took far fewer injections. Think about this, the shape the size and what you have to do is tricky and risky. Risky for two reasons. Leakage of calcium coride will kill anything it touches, with alcohol less so. Secondly, there is a risk that the substance will get into your blood stream. Those who have been successful in this endeavour have also been lucky, not clever as you have no way of knowing if you are injecting into the bloodstream before it is too late. A safer technique would be to band the testicle, this will stop adverse flow outside of the desired area. Then inject from pole to pole slowly withdrawing the needle to spread the the fluid. CC will spread quickly and after an hour or so longer be a risk of flowing it will necrotise. Infection of the dead tissue will cause more necrosis, if you get an infection. Remove the band and wait. Doing a testicle injection from pole to mid point each end is usually enough. It is extremely painful and there is a lot of swelling. You need a lot of 'balls' to do this to yourself and you certainly need to trust someone else to do it. I have been lucky with my friends, I was not so lucky on myself I had leakage and got CC in my blood spreading into my abdomen and I had major surgery as a result. I share this because if you are in the frame of mind I was you will have already done all sorts to your genitals. Better to have others experience and learn from it. Would I do it again to myself? Yes, But only knowing what I do now. The only reason I have helped some others is that they may have ended up in a worse state than me if they failed. Is it safe? No. The dilemma is desperate individuals will self harm. Some guys play at it injecting a bit of alcool as some sort of kink. If you are really determined think and be careful. Make sure you have someone on standby.

I agree with jcat that CaCl2 injections are risky if not done properly. If you aren't very familiar with testicular anatomy, sterile injection technique and haven't thoroughly studied the veterinary protocol to sterilize dogs, then stay away. In my case I had all of the information and background I needed and experienced only mild pain following two sets of injections. Severe pain is probably a sign that the injection didn't go where it should be. Properly sterilized dogs show little sign of pain. It's easy to tell when the injection was successful from enormous swelling of the testicles within a few hours and then when they shrink afterwards and become hard. I currently have only a few soft regions left, but won't do another CaCl2 injection because of fear of leakage. I'll have to finish them off with alcohol.
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I think generally vets reccomend injecting through the epididymis, I think this may be a way of ensuring azoospermia, by preventing the transport of sperm. I've injected 3 times now, and can report huge swelling followed by shinking, and becoming hard
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The purpose of veterinary usa is not testicular destruction but sterilisation. There is a subtle difference. My purpose was to do enough damage to force medical removal. I think in the main that guys injecting want, ultimately the testes removed. If sterilisation is the aim getca vasectomy. Injecting the epididymous is logical for sterilisation. If you like me get a significant amount of cc into an arterial vein it will do significant damage. In my case it went all the way through the hernia area and into the abdomen resulting in a huge incision from groin to stomach, that was left open for 3 months so that it could me managed and the abdominal damage repaired over time. I nearly died. If it goes wrong, it can go badly wrong. You really have no way of knowing where you are squirting until it is too late. I was very unlucky, now I live with constant abdominal pain. This is not for the feint hearted and all the reports of success here are rarely tempered with the failures. It can work but it is very high risk and that should not be minimised.
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jcat (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:44 am The purpose of veterinary usa is not testicular destruction but sterilisation. There is a subtle difference. My purpose was to do enough damage to force medical removal. I think in the main that guys injecting want, ultimately the testes removed. If sterilisation is the aim getca vasectomy. Injecting the epididymous is logical for sterilisation. If you like me get a significant amount of cc into an arterial vein it will do significant damage. In my case it went all the way through the hernia area and into the abdomen resulting in a huge incision from groin to stomach, that was left open for 3 months so that it could me managed and the abdominal damage repaired over time. I nearly died. If it goes wrong, it can go badly wrong. You really have no way of knowing where you are squirting until it is too late. I was very unlucky, now I live with constant abdominal pain. This is not for the feint hearted and all the reports of success here are rarely tempered with the failures. It can work but it is very high risk and that should not be minimised.

I'm sory to hear that, it seems horribly painful. You are right, there is no way of knowing where you are injecting. Even after looking at diagrams trying to compare where epididymis is, there's no way of knowing what position they're in. My intention is to eliminate testosterone from my body, being as vets seem to inject through the epididymis for sterilisation, it may not be necessary for us eunuchs to inject this way. How long did it take for your testosterone levels to plummit after castration?
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Yes, the vets are primarily interested in sterilization, but the published papers document a very large, likely permanent, reduction in testosterone due to severe testicular damage. It's also considered chemical castration because that's what happens when done correctly. And jcat is right that most people who inject with CaCl2 are just trying to do enough damage
Tante Wippen (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:43 am to induce a doctor to remove them.
That's also not me. I told my internist exactly what I had done and why. For me, suppressing T to below 100 ng/dl, coupled with female hormones, gives me exactly what I wanted: low sex drive and a lot of feminization.
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It seems we're in the same boat. I'm also taking estrogen in the form of EV injections and patches.
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Hi Clueless, my bals were were well and truly dead for some time. I just could not get them taken out and did more and more damage until I got really sick. That is desperation and also exceedingly dangerous. The best thing to do is save and get proper surgery in one of the countries that do it with minimal fuss. I have no regrets about the eventual castration, the journey to get there was crazy, painful and dangerous. You will never stop a determined person, at very least here all the data is enough to hopefully make more informed decisions.
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