Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

[DerKastrierte (imported)]

Thanks a lot!!

It's worth mentioning again some important things:

- Never re-inject. Hardening from the previous injection will almost certainly cause leakage, the main risk to avoid with CaCl2.

- Be patient, good results take a minimum of six weeks from everyone I know and have heard from. It was four months for my T factory to shut down forever, then continued hardening and atrophy since then as all of it dies off and it reaches the 'small rock' stage. That took until 9 months to fully harden, and the remnant is still gradually shrinking.

- My personal take is that 1.0 to 1.3ml is the ideal range, and while I know people who have done it safely with up to 1.5ml, I don't think it's a good idea for no benefit. You would do better to find a stronger pre-mixed solution if you're impatient or are worried about certainty. I used 1.1ml of 32% solution in purified water (for cheesemaking) which 100% did the job, but I also know that some people have used up to 60% solution which slams all function to a halt. But remember - volume above 1.0ml increases risk of spillage, higher percentages increase aggressiveness of effects.

- Lightly tie the ball off to keep it close to the skin of the scrotum, then inject very slowly (no less than 20 seconds - count it off). If it were to leak when you withdraw the needle, it's likely to follow the hole straight to the surface where it can be wiped off, rather than potentially entering the scrotum. You can also hold a tissue or towel against the side of the needle so it will wick away extra.

- You may find it helpful to gently masturbate about 20min after smoothly removing the needle and putting on a band-aid. This will distribute the solution around the ball, and in my experience, seemed to give more even damage.

- I do recommend injecting saline several times before you go ahead with CaCl - until you can get 3-5ml of saline in, to help stretch the capsule and increase your safety. But you can't compare directly. I was able to work up to 30ml or so of saline in my right ball a year before using CaCl (ended up trying to push too much saline and broke the capsule, but luckily the tear was small and it healed). But with saline, you might easily work up to injecting 20ml or more - which hurts nothing if it spills back out. But you would never want to inject more than 1.5ml of CaCl because of the damage it can do if it spills. The capsule of the testicle is basically impervious to it - but your other tissues aren't and could end up getting eaten away if it leaked out, and that way is alllll bad :(

- MadScience

[Elementalhunter (imported)]

Thank you, it is crazy how small dose at the centre can kill the whole testicle mercilessly and I agree it is a waiting game

[notsomanly (imported)]

I'm confused by the number of variations in composition of the CaCl2 solution that people have used and am trying to find the optimum. In Sam Kelly's procedure he notes:

What's recommended in the Ingredients and Techniques is to measure 20 grams of CaCl*2H20 into a sterile vessel, then fill the alcohol to the 100 mL mark. This will give you a 20% Calcium Chloride Dihydrate solution in a 95% ethanol base: The resultant solution will be approximately 13% CaCl2, 11% water, 76% alcohol.

and

Ethanol vs. Water Based Solution

From the latest papers, ethanol is preferred to make the CaCl2*2H2O solution, and seems to:

1. Cause less pain

2. Be more permanent

Testicles are more likely to start repairing themselves after 12 months using the water solution.

The last point was made in a study of castrating dogs using CaCl2 injections. Could variations in the solvent be the main cause of variation in the result people have experienced?

[Elementalhunter (imported)]

I think as long as the cacl2 concentration is higher than 20‰ than castration is guaranteed but if you use higher concentration the result will be faster but that is unnecessary because the point of this method is to degenerated slowly over time. Regarding the base ethanol is preferred but water or saline are fine as long as the cacl concentration is high enough and the dose is adequate. Many people are having different result because their dose is varied

[Frida G Cavic (imported)]

using ethanol medical grade or vodka as a base it´s the best option

[Elementalhunter (imported)]

Help! I cant inject anymore, my scrotal skin is very thick and uneven Whenever I band the testicles the band fall out cuz part of the scrotum is surgericlly removed due to leakage and I can't seem to spot the testicle easily I tried injecting but layers of skin were hard to penetrate and massive bleeding occured any suggestion? Should I use long needle or what?

[notsomanly (imported)]

I think as long as the cacl2 concentration is higher than 20‰ than castration is guaranteed but if you use higher concentration the result will be faster but that is unnecessary because the point of this method is to degenerated slowly over time. Regarding the base ethanol is preferred but water or saline are fine as long as the cacl concentration is high enough and the dose is adequate. Many people are having different result because their dose is varied

I didn't mean to imply that the concentration of CaCl2 isn't important, along with the purity of the alcohol. I'll probably use the solution that worked so well on dogs:

Alcohol diluent

provides the optimal formulation for calcium chloride

non-surgical sterilization in dogs

Leoci et al. Acta Veterinaria Scandinavica 2014, 56:62

They compared the results for aqueous (with added lidocaine for pain) vs alcohol solvents in two groups of 21 dogs. What impresses me is the consistency of the results when using 95% ethanol. The error bars are tiny and the drop in testosterone was greater and much less variable at all time points, compared with the aqueous solution. They adjusted the volume for the size of each dog's testicles. I wish there was a similar study on humans but pretty much all of that "data" is reported on this site.

[cutpieces (imported)]

my testosterone dropped from 430 (before partial removal of the nuts) to 150 ng/dl within three months, i guess it will drop down to castration levels.

But these months have been wonderfull.

I am very disciplined, but sometimes i loose my head. For real, i forget very important things.

recently i withdrew money from an ATM and forgot to take it.

I bought myself something for 160 € but gave the person double the money, because i didn't count right. So this is the very new and odd behaviour of mine.

[Elementalhunter (imported)]

How much did you inject?

[Elementalhunter (imported)]

i had my testosterone,LH,and FSH levels checked after 6 weeks of injecting 3cc of 30% calcium chloride and i am disappointed because it didn't work as i thought. My total testosterone is 485ng/dl ,normal range is 300-1155,i hoped for a bigger drop but my LH is 5 times the normal range and FSH is doubled. I feel bad because i had an infection and a leakage which was painful and took a month to heal but i find the final results unsatisfactory after all this pain or i should just give my nuts another dose but this time i will be using 4cc of 40% calcium chloride and i will see how it goes