Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

[SamKelley (imported)]

I am following your progress and I really like your attitude in preparing to all this.

Thank you fhunter - I'm trying to keep as level-a-head as possible given my situation!

The discomfort is now 1/10 just 2 hours shy of the 2 day mark and testes are now only mildly sensitive to the touch and easily manageable with ibuprofen 400mg every 4 hours. Still taking it easy and I'll avoid any physical exertion for the next week.

I just re-measured with the Vernier Calliper. Before I started left testis volume was 20.4cc; it's now 25.1cc. Right was 20.8cc; now 31.7cc. That's a 23% and 52% increase in volume respectively. Will be

interesting to see what happens

next, it appears (fingers crossed) I'm through the worst of it unscathed. Well, apart from my testes hopefully .

Sam xox

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Another quick update, it's now almost the end of day 3. All abdominal discomfort is gone but my testes have been sooo sensitive today. I think someone else mentioned it felt like blue balls, I can totally agree. Walking around has been very slow and deliberate!

I also got my bloods tested today. I had to have an unrelated blood test so I asked my doctor he'd mind if I also write some hormone tests on my pathology form and he agreed (he knows I'm transgender), so he suggested I write "androgens, oestrogens, LH, FSH, prolactin" and I also added "progesterone". DHT is important to test however I believe that will be covered by androgens. It would have been better to test them all before I injected, however hopefully I'll still be able to get some sort of a baseline which will be useful later on. My guess is they will either be unaffected at this point, or T or DHT may spike in reaction to the injection - I'd be interested to hear others' thoughts on this...?

Other than that, feeling good, I'm off the pain meds and had a productive day at work. Having had some time to meditate on what I've done I think injecting the lower dose of 0.6cc was a sensible start. I now feel I know a lot about how my body has reacted, and I'll observe changes for 3 months then make a decision whether to do another treatment. I'll also be able to test my hormone levels at that point and note changes. I know also know that one way or another I will end up with no testicles - without causing myself too much harm which is important to me - and knowing that is helping me cope with the dysphoria.

Sam

[SamKelley (imported)]

I'm almost at the end of day 7. Swelling has gone down and there is no pain or sensitivity. My testicles seem slightly smaller. Right volume 21cc (same as before) left 18cc (2.5cc smaller).

[JessicaH (imported)]

I'd be willing to bet that your LH levels are already high which signifies primary testicular failure. Your red blood cell count may be a little lower too since T increase red blood cell count.

[SamKelley (imported)]

Hope so. As far as I can see the main difference in my experiment to r1honour's is I used CaCl2 Dihydrate vs. straight CaCl2.

So a quick calculation is r1honour got 0.1 cc of pure CaCl2 in the 0.5 cc solution, and I got 0.08 cc in 0.6 cc. Technically to keep it parity I should have injected 0.75 cc of total solution, depending on testicle size, but I don't think I have that information from r1honour so the point is moot.

Never ceases to amaze me how much you seem to know about hormones Jessica!

[Frida G Cavic (imported)]

I'd be willing to bet that your LH levels are already high which signifies primary testicular failure. Your red blood cell count may be a little lower too since T increase red blood cell count.

LH is unlikely to be high If sam is taking estradiol or any other type of HRT.

[Frida G Cavic (imported)]

Hope so. As far as I can see the main difference in my experiment to r1honour's is I used CaCl2 Dihydrate vs. straight CaCl2.

So a quick calculation is r1honour got 0.1 cc of pure CaCl2 in the 0.5 cc solution, and I got 0.08 cc in 0.6 cc. Technically to keep it parity I should have injected 0.75 cc of total solution, depending on testicle size, but I don't think I have that information from r1honour so the point is moot.

Never ceases to amaze me how much you seem to know about hormones Jessica!

Acoording to the papers cacl2 dihydrate should be enough at the dosages suggested. No need for you to use cacl2a anhydrous

[SamKelley (imported)]

LH is unlikely to be high If sam is taking estradiol or any other type of HRT.

Thank you... not yet, I'm just waiting to see the results of my first hormone test before I make any decisions. Then I'm considering going onto a low dose of est

radiol patches until I see the endocrinologist in 6 months.

Acoording to the papers cacl2 dihydrate should be enough at t

he dosages suggested. No need for you to use cacl2a anhydrous

Yes that's what I read too, though they seemed to use larger overall dosages (1~1.5cc?) for 20~25 cc volume testicles, so overall more CaCl2. Though it's hard to tell because they seem to be using testicle width not volume to determine dosage, unless you've read otherwise?

Thanks freddyde

[Frida G Cavic (imported)]

I did a second injection three days ago although I had not wanted to post this before. My first shot was one month ago 1ml of 40%cacl2 analytical . I have noticed some flattening in some points of boths testicles and the size seems to have diminished in some extent after that time.

At this time I used a 30g 14mm (0.55inches)needle. I prepared a new solution mixing 3

0g of cacl2 dihydrated analytical grade in

a final volume of 100ml.

I inserted the needle from bottom up to the center of each one. At the beggining I found some difficult to push the liquid into the right testicle I don´t know If It was because some fibrotic tissue had started to develop from the first injection, or It was due to the fine of the needle. I´ve always found some resistance to inject when using insulin needeles though. I also noticed that when I drew back the needle a bit the liquid flowed easier. The process took longer than the first time, injecting with insulin syringes takes a bit more in my experience. After 10-15 minutes I finished the first one. The second one took around the same. I did 1ml of 30% to each one.

The actual pain come after 7 hours in the early hours (I injected at 7pm) It was 8 out of 10. Again the horrible abdominal and intestinal discomfort, but this time I had not to visit to my doctor. the pain remained 4 out of 10 for the rest of the first day and I was able to continue with work. The second day I felt much better, sitting or lying in rest I felt almost no pain but It peaked when I stood up and then after some minutes of walking It back to less pain. Today I feel much much better only feel some pain 3 out of 10 and a squeezing sensation in the epididymis. In general the pain was less this second time that the first time. Now both are huge and tender.

I will continue with 10mg of estradiol shots every other week and one depo-provera per month. I´m on 9 months on HRT now. I wonder what would be the diagnoses If doctors find my testicles atrophied and dead and my LH and FSH were low or normal due to my HRT? primary testicular failure? secondary tesicular failure? or both???

[rikerscage (imported)]

Fredyede, its only my opinion, but you noticed changes in your testicles after one month. Why did you inject again, it takes 3 months to reach maximum results. I am glad to hear it didn't hurt for as long. I agree that the finer needles take longer to inject with.

Update. For me its been 2 months since my one and only injection. My wife commented that "your arms look like a girl, you need to start lifting weights again". She also has commented on my skin feeling soft and wondered which of her products I've been using. Last I feel my pants tighter around my thighs, and my chest jiggles when I run. My weight has come down 5 lbs. My testicles are very small now. My wife notices this too. She chocked it up to me being cold, which I wasn't, I had just come from a hot shower. I think that the injection worked well for me, I also believe that the puerira mirifica has helped with the female fat redistribution.

[stephaniesteve1 (imported)]

Another success for caCl.

Just ha

d an appointment with the urologist.

Its exactly 4 months from the first shot and 2 months from a precautionary second.Had a hard time convincing the docs to do a proper job and remve both testes. First though they went through the options of , remove lumps, remove one before finally agreeing to remove both under local .

Will get a date mid Jan!

Will keep you posted