A Troubling Trend in Life Expectancy

[moi621 (imported)]

So it's mainly uneducated white people who eat a high carb diet? Uneducated blacks and hispanics show increasing longevity. In fact, hispanics have longer life expectancy than anyone else. What does it all mean?

Hard work to burn off the calories does it.

Just like the legendary Lumberjack's meals.

American blacks were "selectively" bred for health and hybrids like Hispanics which is always healthier.

I would say such statistics also show a decrease in unnecessary medical deaths do to lack of medical care.

Moi

From a very narrow genome with lots and lots of inbred diseases, some yet to be discovered.

But, my genomeics get good medical care. Often within the family

[A-1 (imported)]

So it's mainly uneducated white people who eat a high carb diet? Uneducated blacks and hispanics show increasing longevity. In fact, hispanics have longer life expectancy than anyone else. What does it all mean?

Didn't you tell me once that they are coming to America for FREE medical care? Well, if so it must be working...

By the way, that is Hispanics to you... unless you want the spell checker to kick your poor English out again... boy, when are YOU going to learn proper English?

And another thing...

Poll finds Obama with 68-26 percent edge among Hispanic voters (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pol ... ver-romney)



I'm not done here yet.

Bob/3, the White, uneducated people with the higher death rates that you refer to are the ones who drink alcohol like it was a main food group, watch Fox News over 5 hours a day, smoke 5 buck-a-pack cigarettes and bitch constantly about leebrals. They mostly belong to the Tea Party and vote Republican because the Republicans enable them to live their life styles just to get their votes. They consistently bitch about Obama just because he is Black and successful and and they are white, stupid and poor. They hate Gays, foreigners, anybody who is not like them and anybody with an I.Q. over 60 that does not speak with a lisp or a southern drawl.

Are you listening, Bob/3? They will NOT help themselves and Fox News enables their perverse life style with propaganda. YOU must leave them alone and let them die. They are beyond help.

[Slammr (imported)]

So it's mainly uneducated white people who eat a high carb diet? Uneducated blacks and hispanics show increasing longevity. In fact, hispanics have longer life expectancy than anyone else. What does it all mean?

I see few obese Black men. I do see some Black women I would consider to be obese, but I would say they are fewer in number than the obese White women I see. I can't remember the last time I saw an obese Asian. Most people eat themselves to death.

[A-1 (imported)]

I :hearthrob logic.

Remember: Romney sez middle class is 200-250K/year.

Therefore, Romney will create better quality jobs then Obama's 30K-40K/year jobs.

You call this logic? YOU are a MOI-on...

In fact, this statement PROVES that YOU have a Heart-On for the rest of us...

This is BULLSHIT. It is so BROWN that you can SMELL it... In fact, here is a simple break down:

51% of Americans make $49,999.00

19% of Americans make $50,000 - $74,999

12% of Americans make $75,000 - $99,999

14% of Americans make $100,000- $199,999

3% of Americans make $200,000 or above

What is "Rich" is a pointless argument. Majority of Americans make less than $75,000.00 a year. The median income is $43,318.00.

In 2002 the latest year of available data, the top 5 percent of taxpayers paid more than one-half (53.8 percent) of all individual income taxes, but reported roughly one-third (30.6 percent) of income. -US Treasury Department

HOWEVER...

Warren Buffett, the third-richest man in the world, has criticized the US tax system for allowing him to pay a lower rate than his secretary and his cleaner.

Speaking at a $4,600-a-seat fundraiser in New York for Senator Hillary Clinton, Mr Buffett, who is worth an estimated $52 billion (£26 billion), said: “The 400 of us [here] pay a lower part of our income in taxes than our receptionists do, or our cleaning ladies, for that matter. If you’re in the luckiest 1 per cent of humanity, you owe it to the rest of humanity to think about the other 99 per cent.”

Mr Buffett said that he was taxed at 17.7 per cent on the $46 million he made last year, without trying to avoid paying higher taxes, while his secretary, who earned $60,000, was taxed at 30 per cent. Mr Buffett told his audience, which included John Mack, the chairman of Morgan Stanley, and Alan Patricof, the founder of the US branch of Apax Partners, that US government policy had accentuated a disparity of wealth that hurt the economy by stifling opportunity and motivation. -Time Magazine

The fact is, the super wealthy do not pay their fair share of taxes.

Last year Mitt Romney paid a tax rate of roughly 14% (http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=17292036) because his income was from dividends and capital gains.

ABC News

September 21, 2012

Romneys Paid $1.94 Million Federal Taxes for 2011

By TOM RAUM Associated Press

19 minutes ago

Mitt Romney, one of the wealthiest candidates ever to seek the presidency, paid nearly $2 million in federal taxes on $13.7 million in income that he and his wife reported last year, his U.S. returns showed Friday. That came to an effective tax rate of 14.1 percent, lower than millions of middle-income Americans but actually more than he had to pay.

Most of Romney's income was from investment returns. That is why his rate was lower than taxpayers whose income was mostly from wages, which can be taxed at higher rates.

In fact...

He paid more taxes than he needed to so his tax rate wouldn't look too low:

Mitt Romney's trustee said in a campaign press release that Romney artificially inflated his own effective tax rate so it would remain above 13 percent by deferring $1.75 million in charitable deductions. Romney had previously said that none of his last decade of tax returns dipped below that 13 percent threshold.

In an interview with ABC News in July, however, Romney dismissed the idea that he would ever pay more taxes than legally owed, saying if he did so he wouldn't be "qualified" to be president.

"I don't pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don't think I'd be qualified to become president," Romney said. "I'd think people would want me to follow the law and pay only what the tax code requires."

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/e ... rying-idea

statement from Romney trustee:

The Romneys’ generous charitable donations in 2011 would have significantly reduced their tax obligation for the year. The Romneys thus limited their deduction of charitable contributions to conform to the Governor's statement in August, based upon the January estimate of income, that he paid at least 13% in income taxes in each of the last 10 years.

http://www.mittromney.com/blogs/mitts-v ... -brad-malt

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[Elizabeth (imported)]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012 ... tancy.html

Life expectancy has fallen for white people without high school diplomas - 5 years for women and 3 years for men. Life expectancy continues to rise for everyone else.

What do you think?

My guess would be a lack of insurance and not being aware of how to use social services.

Elizabeth

[curious_guy (imported)]

Well "A" must logically conclude, "B".

How about Japanese Americans.

How about the quality of Japan's prenatal care so when born into the world, you are on the best footing possible.

Japanese live longest. Must be their diet and not the size of their plates.

I :hearthrob logic.

You originally mentioned carbohydrates and only carbohydrates. If the Japanese who eat mostly carbohydrates have the longest life expectancy in the world, then logically, the cause of short life spans CANNOT be carbohydrates. After I proved your original premise wrong, you brought up prenatal care and plate size.

Do you know of any articles published in peer reviewed journals that substantiate your claim that high carbohydrate diets cause shortened life spans?

[bobover3 (imported)]

What makes you think the Japanese eat mostly carbohydrates? If that was ever true, it's not been true in modern times. No, Japanese don't eat mostly rice, just as Americans don't eat mostly bread.

[A-1 (imported)]

What makes you think the Japanese eat mostly carbohydrates? If that was ever true, it's not been true in modern times. No, Japanese don't eat mostly rice, just as Americans don't eat mostly bread.

What DO Japanese people eat, mostly?...

The Japanese people eat many things. Rice, noodles, fish, meat and vegetables. Of course, it's what they do with these ingredients that counts.

For example, rice is often eaten plain, with accompanying dishes, or as sushi, where it is topped with fish.

Noodles in Japan are generally divided into 3 main types, Soba or buckwheat noodles, Udon a thick and chewy noodle made of wheat flour, and Ramen, a Chinese style wheat noodle. Noodles are most often served in soup, with a dipping sauce, or pan fried.

Fish in Japan, when served raw, is called Sashimi, and when paired with vinegared rice, it is sushi. It can be prepared in many other ways eg. grilling, frying, steaming, much like it is done in other countries.

Meat and vegetables are also served in a variety of ways, both cooked and raw. Chicken, beef, and even horse sashimi are not unheard of, though they are far less common than fish sashimi.

The Japanese people do enjoy foreign cuisine as well. Curry, salisbury steak, pasta, and Chinese buns are some of the most popular ones that have been adapted to suit Japanese tastes.

Going back to your question though, most families enjoy rice and accompanying dishes (usually a meat/fish and vegetables and soup) as home cooked meals.

Popular Japanese dishes such as sushi or ramen are most often eaten at restaurants and not at home.

Read more: (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_food_do_ ... ixzz27DNuz 6Tx)

Hint: Nowhere does it say HAMBURGER HELPER...

[BossTamsin (imported)]

This is just another half-assed response from someone who clearly doesn't understand the root issues. Just someone with a severely low income, who's been there and might have a valid reason or two for why this is happening.

It may seem counterintuitive, but quite honestly I feel one of the major reasons for the obesity epidemic is actually poverty. To be specific, something that seems to have been titled 'food insecurity'. Let's play a game here. Let's say you have $100 to feed you through the month. That's it, just $100. Chances are, you're not gonna be able to find yourself a proper, balanced diet on $3 a day. So, you have to make compromises. First among those is, proper eating, or feeling full (http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/0 ... lthy-food/)? If it comes down to it, would you rather be hungry for most of the month but eat right, or eat crap but actually feel full? $3 a day buys a lot of ramen and other carbohydrates. I've been there. Hell, I AM there. And if you've met me in person, I'm sure you can guess which route I've chosen.

To make things worse, when those suffering from food security issues do tend to get money, they have trained their bodies to seek out calorie-heavy, nutrition-light foods so as to provide more of a buffer in case they run out of food. In essence, because their food supply is not secure, they continue to overeat crap whenever they get a chance, so as to ensure they don't risk going without.

You have no idea how much I'd love to eliminate most of the carbs from my diet, eat mostly meat, fresh fruit, and veggies. The sad fact is though, that would at least triple my food budget, and that's something I cannot afford. It's just cheaper to live on a high-carb diet consisting primarily of things like rice, ramen, and potatoes. $10 buys a hell of a lot of all three, enough to make you feel full for days on end. Of course, diets like that will also radically decrease your life expectancy, and increase your waistline. Though at least you won't feel hungry all the time...

Simply put, obesity isn't just a sign of having too much. It's also a sign of having too little, as strange as that sounds.

[A-1 (imported)]

You are on to something. We have adopted an insecure little doggy who guards his bowl of dry dog food like it was t-bone steak. Any other doggy who comes close to it he will fight. There is plenty of food, dog bowls, etc. But the insecurity of not having had enough to eat drives him into a frenzy. He is so FAT now that he is starting to waddle...