Costs of War

[moi621 (imported)]

Sometime ago we discussed the increased frequency of

castrating and penis destroying injuries and the reticents to report.

I came across this article yesterday and after thinking on it for a day,

decided to share.

What struck me is the lack of preparedness of the partners of the wounded worriers.

". . one day he was wheeled back to his room to find she had gone, leaving a nine-word handwritten note: "I can't take this any more. I'm outta here." . . "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/2 ... 35356.html

Beyond The Battlefield: Afghanistan's Wounded Struggle With Genital Injuries

Posted: 03/21/2012 2:18 pm Updated: 03/22/2012

"Before they went off to fight in Afghanistan, the guys of 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines talked quietly about their deepest fear. Not dying. Not losing a leg or an arm.

It was having their genitals ripped off, burned away or crushed in the fiery blast of an improvised explosive device. . . ."

Sad. What more could they do?

Could any preparation or support of partners really dent the effect on them?

Moi

Avoiding political assessment expressions this thread, I am, I am.

[SplitDik (imported)]

Thanks for finding this. The most interesting part of the article really though is that this prevalence of genital injuries is likely to accelerate the advancement of penis regeneration, according to the article. I had heard about the success in regenerating rabbit penises, and it would be really interesting if it works for humans. Of course, like most such surgery developed to treat trauma, there are interesting cosmetic applications -- imagine the penis enlargement possibilities, or the fact that you could potentially experience a penectomy and then get a regenerated one.

Although I understand the interest in sex, I'm pretty sure that even when I was a highly sexed young man I still would have rather lost my genitals than my hands or legs...

[dark_soul (imported)]

very interesting article thanks for sharing with the community greetings.

[moi621 (imported)]

I guess what continues to strike me is even to date there seems to be insufficient support for the partners of the catastrophically wounded.

I don't know if it could have made a difference for the gal who just left the note.

I do believe a proper program could improve the odds of a couple staying together.

A successful partner has to "accept" a very different life too.

Moi

[dualballs (imported)]

As much as i love having hands and feet, I love having sex even more. Prosthetic limbs are getting very advanced these days. However prosthetic penises are usefull as

piss tubes at best. Sex is a big thing. It would be interesting to poll the guys that have come home from the war that have lost their sex and see if they would have traded

another "limb". :dong:There is something about looking at an attractive woman and knowing if she does give you the chance you have what it takes to make her feel like a woman.

Thanks for finding this. The most interesting part of the article really though is that this prevalence of genital injuries is likely to accelerate the advancement of penis regeneration, according to the article. I had heard about the success in regenerating rabbit penises, and it would be really interesting if it works for humans. Of course, like most such surgery developed to treat trauma, there are interesting cosmetic applications -- imagine the penis enlargement possibilities, or the fact that you could potentially experience a penectomy and then get a regenerated one.

Although I understand the interest in sex, I'm pretty sure that even when I was a highly sexed young man I still would have rather lost my genitals than my hands or legs...

[moi621 (imported)]

I think that has been covered else where, some where at EA.

Soldiers agreements to kill one another should they lose . . . .

The problem is being on the outside looking in. Like Pre-Injury.

Looking in I'd say, "kill me".

I assume, immediately after the mutilation, I'd say "kill me".

Some months down the road - adaptation. Acceptance?

And looking in, I'd still say, "kill me".

And these adapted guys no doubt know that is what folks think.

The costs of war.

Moi

[SplitDik (imported)]

I think that has been covered else where, some where at EA.

Soldiers agreements to kill one another should they lose . . . .

The problem is being on the outside looking in. Like Pre-Injury.

Looking in I'd say, "kill me".

I assume, immediately after the mutilation, I'd say "kill me".

Some months down the road - adaptation. Acceptance?

And looking in, I'd still say, "kill me".

And these adapted guys no doubt know that is what folks think.

The costs of war.

Moi

I agree, the human will to live is really strong. From healthy perspective you might assume you'd end it all, but most people that lose limbs, genitals, sight, get paralyzed, other wasting diseases, etc. carry on.

In fact the majority of the world live in situations we would consider intolerable, but humanity persists.

We're descended from those that survived and held on to life. Any tendency to give up was bred out of us millions of years ago.

[fhunter]

As much as i love having hands and feet, I love having sex even more. Prosthetic limbs are getting very advanced these days. However prosthetic penises are usefull as piss tubes at best. Sex is a big thing.

------8<------8<----I do say about others, but as much as the prosthetics are advanced, they still do not have proper feedback (and looking at current state of technologies, would not have for some time. It is one thing, to read a signal from muscle, it is quite another thing to feed it back, and do it reliably). So I agree with SplitDik, I'd rather lost my genitals.

I also understand, that I am different from others. It was once, that I called genitals euphemistically "spare parts", and got reply along the lines of "may be for you...", etc.

[moi621 (imported)]

I agree, the human will to live is really strong. From healthy perspective you might assume you'd end it all, but most people that lose limbs, genitals, sight, get paralyzed, other wasting diseases, etc. carry on.

In fact the majority of the world live in situations we would consider intolerable, but humanity persists.

We're descended from those that survived and held on to life. Any tendency to give up was bred out of us millions of years ago.

True for critters too.

You'd think "humanity" would have a different perspective.

True for plants too,

except when I try grow tomatoes.

[janekane (imported)]

Perhaps in the manner that every form of child neglect can be accurately understood as child abuse, so every cost can, it seems to me, be accurately understood, albeit usually from a starkly contrasting perspective, as a benefit.

What is the most likely benefit of human war mongering and actual, violently destructive warfare?

Could the benefit, one worth all the necessary destruction, be learning the ways, apparently not yet fully understood, that will successfully and sustainably prevent human wars?