Revolution

[Paolo]

You know, I have to agree.

After reading "A Brief History of Time," I suddenly developed problems with Star Trek's warp travel.

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

Plus, and I hope there's a train aficionado here to help, if they'd had ready access to coal/coke for blacksmithing all those horseshoes, etc, wouldn't they have used it for the train, rather than the car full of wood? (I honestly don't know, were there specific 'wood-only' steam engines or could you work them with any combination of wood/coal/coke/etc so long as it burned

I am not a railroad expert but I was trained in steam power engineering. The engine does not care, within reason, where the steam comes from, but boilers are very fuel specific. The temperature, specific heat, air flow and clinker/ash requirements are very different for different types of fuel. Most boilers will only operate with the fuel they were designed for. As an example a boiler designed for wood would quickly burn out the grate and firebox if fired with coal and a coal burner would not have a large enough firebox to burn wood. The size of boiler tubes and water capacity would also be problematic. And that is only the start of the differences. --FLO--

[Riverwind (imported)]

Just decided to start watching this not a minute in and i hear:

"We still don't know why the power went out but we are hopeful that someone will come and light the way"

15 years and still waiting on someone to save him?

/face-palm anyone who lived that long after such an event wouldn't be waiting for a hero.

Ill add to this post as I get further in,

I like the leopro or bennet crossbow, no way in hell it would last 15 years tho.

Might be better if I turned of the sound the dialogue makes me want to cry.

25 minutes in, I had hoped the fat guy wasn't going to survive the first episode, the only black guy is to important to kill so hes the logical first death anyway. My thoughts about his character confirmed when the idiot hands over the medallion that can turn the power back on. that is the usb thingy you guys were talking about?

41 minutes in Power symbol on the book is kinda cool.

I'm not a fan of picking on Catholics but that was funny.

9 shots from a Remington 700 with no reloading, why oh why does Hollywood always get it wrong.

15 years later and somehow they have a roll of duct tape, not an almost gone roll mind you a full roll.

Marines who left their barracks due to the end of the world take only pistols with them. Anyone else have a problem with this?

Bullets are rare, they can't even make them anymore but they can make percussion caps for muskets. Wow.

The swords and the muskets carried by the militia are uniform implying a standardized manufacturing process, yet the same folks who can make them can't make a shell never mind get a diesel engine working.

And you are coming to the same conclusion I did after the first show, one hour wasted was enough. What shocks me is that its still on but I have faith that before long it will be moved to Fri and when that happens, you will know its the kiss of death, the first sign will be when they canx the show for something special.

River

[gunnutz (imported)]

And you are coming to the same conclusion I did after the first show, one hour wasted was enough. What shocks me is that its still on but I have faith that before long it will be moved to Fri and when that happens, you will know its the kiss of death, the first sign will be when they canx the show for something special.

River

It drives me nuts that crap like this stays on when good shows get canceled.

I actually watched all but the last episode available, I kept thinking "Hey its still on TV they must have fixed SOMETHING!"

my conclusion

1 the writing is terrible

2 the setting is unbelievable

3 the political situation is unbelievable

4 The fact that the fat guy is still alive and still fat is unbelievable KILL HIM OFF ALREADY! Its not that hes fat, its just that Fat and whiny seems to be his only traits.

5 15 YEARS to refurbish a steam engine

6 The only character with potential is Nevile

They killed of the brit first, there didn't seem to be a reason for her to be there so its not a big deal, but killing of eye candy before the annoying millionaire geek who can't seem to adapt to the current situation would have been better.

Final conclusion, the end of civilization arrived and only the idiots survived it.

[moi621 (imported)]

Final conclusion, the end of civilization arrived and only the idiots survived it.

You mean the gunnutz, don't you?

[gunnutz (imported)]

You mean the gunnutz, don't you?

If the gun nuts survived we wouldn't be running out of shells.

[Dave (imported)]

WALKING DEAD is confronting the ammunition issue.

They got guns but there are so many zombies they are running out of ammo with head shots.

Even the crossbow arrows are recovered.

You have to figure that someone would understand how to reload shells.

I don't remember muzzle loaders in REVOLUTION

[gunnutz (imported)]

WALKING DEAD is confronting the ammunition issue.

They got guns but there are so many zombies they are running out of ammo with head shots.

Even the crossbow arrows are recovered.

You have to figure that someone would understand how to reload shells.

I don't remember muzzle loaders in REVOLUTION

Reloading is easy, and the equipment to do it is readily available but at some point you will run out of primers and the shell casings will rupture, in walking dead it makes sense to a certain extent that they would run out, Ive only seen season one and was not terribly impressed.

The problem in Revolution is that they have obvious manufacturing capability and an obvious work force, the population is diminished sure but not nearly as decimated as it is in walking dead. They can make percussion caps, the movement from that to making shells is one of invention not difficulty, its already invented so they should be there already.

On to crossbows, the problem with modern crossbows is the cable, not the bolt, they are only good for 1500-2000 shots before they will fail (its rather spectacular when they do) I had a compound bow snap a cable on me once and it nearly flayed my wrist open. This is why the reverse crossbow carried by charlie in Revolution is so laughable to me, sure its a cool bow but there is simply no way it would last 15 years, and good luck getting a cable for it.

[Riverwind (imported)]

I only watched the first show, when they showed the baseball field with vines growing all over it, so was I, over it. Then they get to the hotel and the uncle also known as CHUCK NORRIS able to fight 50 guys at one time and never be touched, I was totally over it.

The whole show is just so out of touch with reality of any sort.

Now think about this for a second

, electricity has only been in wide use for

just over one hundred years, man has been here a long time and did just fine without it, I have cousins who are farmers in Kansas who still did not have a working loo in the 60's, they had built it but had yet to put in the plumbing.

The writers of this show have no idea what man is about and that is why this show is a failure.

River

[Dave (imported)]

THE WALKING DEAD deals with the very human drama of how a person survives with something civilized left in them as the world crumbles. It's not a story with a happy ending. SO the writers are focused on characters. WE might not have seen Day One of the release of the germ or virus that infects the world but we have see Day One of Rick, his family, Shane and the others of the group. WE see their very personal fall from civilized into killers to survive. In the six "search for Sofia" episodes, the show emotionally involved the audience cheering for the girl until that devastating final act. We not on experience a heartbreaking reveal but also get to see the face of ultimate horror as Rick steps up and does the dirtiest of all deeds.

In REVOLUTION, the name gives it away as this wasn't just a descent into non-electricity apocalyptic storytelling, it's the story of how power is restored (I'll bet a cup of coffee or Green Tea on that.) Here, we're seeing all the faults because he characters are so flat and plastic and hackneyed.

I do like the sword fights and I liked that train chase but then, I'm in love with steam trains fired by wood.

As I wrote about REVOLUTION, I thought about that failed series THE EVENT where everything depended on one final scene and all the events surrounding it were soap opera trash.

I came back to add this one thought after I posted:

This Rick Grimes of this last season is a far cry from the man who woke in the hospital and wandered around trying to stay alive. Remember that he apologized to a female zombie for killing her in that opening show. It ain't the same Rick we see now.