What are the effects?
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dutchman (imported)
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What are the effects?
Since i'm quite new on this Forum and Archive, I'm a bit confused about the effects of getting castrated. First i thought after getting ( surgery ) castration, one would loose his complete sexual interest. Later on I read in some threads ( correct me if I'm wrong ) that one can still get excited and even experience a kind of orgasm. Is this true? Is there, in this way, any difference in chemical castration and surgery castration? And what happens exactly after chemical castration? Will the effects be that your balls stop producing semen, or will they also shrink? Thanks for your help... Hope my questions don't seem to be too dumb... :-\
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Re: What are the effects?
There is a little phrase that shows up in Archive postings from time to time, "Your mileage may vary." One person's life changes following castration may contrast greatly with another person's life changes following castration. That said, there are many people whose life changes are very similar to the life changes of many, if not most, other people after castration.
I may be able to usefully illustrate this with aspects of my own life.
My purpose in seeking and obtaining a bilateral orchiectomy in 1986 was to keep as much sexual interest and function as possible. Why so? Because there is a form of genetically-based cancer in my family that seems to have resulted in men dying sadly young. This condition has a name, familial adenomatous polyposis, and the average age of death as I have found it in the medical literature is 42 years in the absence of sufficiently drastic surgical interventions.
For example, my dad's and brother's testicles are no less dead than mine are. However, their brains are also dead, and mine is alive, and is alive at an age considerably greater than my dad's and brother's ages when their brains died.
There are many different reasons why some people (men, if you believe in the notion that there are only two genders; a belief I do not hold)) may seek, and may obtain, castration. In my view, no such reason is necessarily more or less appropriate than is any other reason.
For myself, as puberty became mostly finished, I found that I had acquired a biological clock that had a four to five day cycle. One way or another, no matter what I did, awake or asleep, I would have an orgasm within five days of having one. Two of those at night, waking up wet, cold, and clammy "down there," and it came to my mind that cleaning up the mess so I could get back to sleep was messing up what I wanted to do while awake during daytime.
Both of my parents had studied biology in college, I had access to a decent selection of college level biology books. Being competently what might now be named, "geeky-nerdy," I read up on methods of getting uninterrupted sleep, and found one. If I activated my ejaculation reflex while I was awake before it activated itself while I was asleep, I found my waking quality of life to be vastly better than it was if I was awakened at night by my ejaculation reflex having activated itself.
There are two main male sexual spinal gangia based reflexes. erection and ejaculation. For me, my erection reflex is essentially unchanged. In contrast with that reflex, my ejaculation reflex ceased to self-activate within a very few weeks after my orchiectomy. Yet, as an act of supposed willful purpose, when, as happens from time to time, I "voluntarily" activate my ejaculation reflex, it "feels" almost the same as when I was "intact."
Because my purpose was doing everything reasonable that I thought would reduce my cancer risk, I have no personal experience with anything except surgical castration.
There is a book by David Ruben, M.D., "Everything you always wanted to know about sex " but were afraid to ask," the first, 1969 copyright date, edition has what I regard as reasonably decent and accurate physiology information. That information is, in my view, almost completely absent in the second, 1999 copyright date, edition. The first edition made the New York Times "Best Seller" list; there are many copies yet to be found in public libraries according to what I found on www(dot)worldcat(dot)org earlier today.
I have both the first and second editions of Ruben's "Everything you wanted to know..." Regarding castration issues, the first edition may be useful, I find the second edition to be essentially irrelevant regarding castration concerns.
Erection and the sensations of ejaculation have not notably changed for me because of castration. And I have not been bothered by a nocturnal emission since mid-1986. If, somehow, my ejaculation reflex were to self-activate during some night while I am asleep, the amount of ejaculate would not be any bother whatsoever, and I would not, as happened with the onset of puberty, wake up feeling wet, cold, and clammy "down there."
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For men dealing with prostate cancer, it may be that chemical castration is appropriately effective; for the genetic condition I have, and taking into careful account my family history, I have a lingering hunch that my having used chemical, instead of surgical, castration would have been a sadly effective suicide method.
I may be able to usefully illustrate this with aspects of my own life.
My purpose in seeking and obtaining a bilateral orchiectomy in 1986 was to keep as much sexual interest and function as possible. Why so? Because there is a form of genetically-based cancer in my family that seems to have resulted in men dying sadly young. This condition has a name, familial adenomatous polyposis, and the average age of death as I have found it in the medical literature is 42 years in the absence of sufficiently drastic surgical interventions.
For example, my dad's and brother's testicles are no less dead than mine are. However, their brains are also dead, and mine is alive, and is alive at an age considerably greater than my dad's and brother's ages when their brains died.
There are many different reasons why some people (men, if you believe in the notion that there are only two genders; a belief I do not hold)) may seek, and may obtain, castration. In my view, no such reason is necessarily more or less appropriate than is any other reason.
For myself, as puberty became mostly finished, I found that I had acquired a biological clock that had a four to five day cycle. One way or another, no matter what I did, awake or asleep, I would have an orgasm within five days of having one. Two of those at night, waking up wet, cold, and clammy "down there," and it came to my mind that cleaning up the mess so I could get back to sleep was messing up what I wanted to do while awake during daytime.
Both of my parents had studied biology in college, I had access to a decent selection of college level biology books. Being competently what might now be named, "geeky-nerdy," I read up on methods of getting uninterrupted sleep, and found one. If I activated my ejaculation reflex while I was awake before it activated itself while I was asleep, I found my waking quality of life to be vastly better than it was if I was awakened at night by my ejaculation reflex having activated itself.
There are two main male sexual spinal gangia based reflexes. erection and ejaculation. For me, my erection reflex is essentially unchanged. In contrast with that reflex, my ejaculation reflex ceased to self-activate within a very few weeks after my orchiectomy. Yet, as an act of supposed willful purpose, when, as happens from time to time, I "voluntarily" activate my ejaculation reflex, it "feels" almost the same as when I was "intact."
Because my purpose was doing everything reasonable that I thought would reduce my cancer risk, I have no personal experience with anything except surgical castration.
There is a book by David Ruben, M.D., "Everything you always wanted to know about sex " but were afraid to ask," the first, 1969 copyright date, edition has what I regard as reasonably decent and accurate physiology information. That information is, in my view, almost completely absent in the second, 1999 copyright date, edition. The first edition made the New York Times "Best Seller" list; there are many copies yet to be found in public libraries according to what I found on www(dot)worldcat(dot)org earlier today.
I have both the first and second editions of Ruben's "Everything you wanted to know..." Regarding castration issues, the first edition may be useful, I find the second edition to be essentially irrelevant regarding castration concerns.
Erection and the sensations of ejaculation have not notably changed for me because of castration. And I have not been bothered by a nocturnal emission since mid-1986. If, somehow, my ejaculation reflex were to self-activate during some night while I am asleep, the amount of ejaculate would not be any bother whatsoever, and I would not, as happened with the onset of puberty, wake up feeling wet, cold, and clammy "down there."
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is so unpredictable in exact details as to inform me that wanting to know exactly what will happen is wanting to know something that is often impossible to know without going through chemical castration.
For men dealing with prostate cancer, it may be that chemical castration is appropriately effective; for the genetic condition I have, and taking into careful account my family history, I have a lingering hunch that my having used chemical, instead of surgical, castration would have been a sadly effective suicide method.
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Re: What are the effects?
dutchman (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:31 am i thought after getting ( surgery ) castration, one would loose his complete sexual interest. Later on I read in some threads ( correct me if I'm wrong ) that one can still get excited and even experience a kind of orgasm. Is this true? Is there, in this way, any difference in chemical castration and surgery castration? And what happens exactly after chemical castration? Will the effects be that your balls stop producing semen, or will they also shrink?
After an orchiectomy. one typically looses all, or almost all, sexual interest; however, one can still get erect and ejaculate, especially when using artificial testosterone. The effects of chemical castration are similar to having an orchiectomy, except that one's testosterone level does not decrease to the level when having the testicles removed. With chemical castration, the testicles shrink and the sex drive diminishes, eventually becoming permanent if done for some period of time. One's previous interest in sex does not return to the level that it once was; however, even when using supplemental testosterone. That's been my experience anyway and, as they say, your experience may be somewhat different than mine or others.
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knightbird111 (imported)
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Re: What are the effects?
do you guys find that you operate very slow now that your castrated?
I did a couple of vodka injections and my brother told me I have been moving very slowly. I do feel more concentrated.
I did a couple of vodka injections and my brother told me I have been moving very slowly. I do feel more concentrated.
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Eunuchorn (imported)
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Re: What are the effects?
I know a man who recently had a single testicle removed. He's not a Eunuch, (a Half Eunuch?) so is leery of coming here. Is there anything from here that I can tell him to expect?
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Re: What are the effects?
In general, the removal of one testicle will not result in any noticeable changes if the other testicle is fully functional. --FLO--
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JesusA (imported)
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Re: What are the effects?
While this may seem a simple question, there is no simple answer. There are too many factors in play for it to be anything other than complex.
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2. There are a variety of possible hormone usages (or non-usage) after castration.
3. There is a wide range of psychological reactions to castration.
4. There are human physiological differences that come into play.
The only simple answer that might be given is the one that Janekane stated in his post:
YOUR MILEAGE WILL VARY!
Beyond that, you can take the accounts here on the Eunuch Archive as examples within that great variance.
World wide, the most common reason for castration is treatment for prostate cancer. In the United States, Medicare alone pays for over 80,000 castrations of prostate cancer patients per year. Tens of thousands are castrated for PCa elsewhere in the world, as well. The goal is to remove testosterone from the system, so the only hormones possible are low dose estrogen to alleviate some of the worst consequences – hot flashes and osteoporosis. Few men opt to take the estrogen.
The second most common reason is Male-to-Female transition. Castration is followed (or frequently preceded) by high doses of estrogen to feminize both the body and the brain.
For those who frequent the Eunuch Archive, the two most common reasons are Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID) or Male-to-Eunuch Gender Dysphoria (MtE). These are very different and have very different results.
Those men with BIID find their penis and/or testicles to be foreign bodies that happen to be attached. They are perfectly happy being male, but need those parts removed in order to feel complete. They take testosterone as hormone replacement therapy (HRT) after castration and, other than greater psychological health, are little changed.
Those with MtE know that they are not male, but not female either. After castration they take no HRT or only minimal doses of either testosterone or estrogen to ward off hot flashes and osteoporosis. There are significant psychological and physiological consequences, which vary with the individual.
While those with BIID and those with MtE are both here on the same Internet site, their needs and desires are very different and the consequences of their castration are very different.
There are others here for very different reasons from those main ones, again with different consequences should they achieve castration. There are also a great many who fantasize about castration with no intention of ever following through to reality. Some of them post fictional accounts of the results of their fictional castrations. While the moderators try to remove such posts as potentially dangerous to readers, they don’t always succeed.
Fiction should remain in the Fiction Archive, where it should never be taken as true….
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for a male to be castrated, some volitional, some required for medical or other reasons.
2. There are a variety of possible hormone usages (or non-usage) after castration.
3. There is a wide range of psychological reactions to castration.
4. There are human physiological differences that come into play.
The only simple answer that might be given is the one that Janekane stated in his post:
YOUR MILEAGE WILL VARY!
Beyond that, you can take the accounts here on the Eunuch Archive as examples within that great variance.
World wide, the most common reason for castration is treatment for prostate cancer. In the United States, Medicare alone pays for over 80,000 castrations of prostate cancer patients per year. Tens of thousands are castrated for PCa elsewhere in the world, as well. The goal is to remove testosterone from the system, so the only hormones possible are low dose estrogen to alleviate some of the worst consequences – hot flashes and osteoporosis. Few men opt to take the estrogen.
The second most common reason is Male-to-Female transition. Castration is followed (or frequently preceded) by high doses of estrogen to feminize both the body and the brain.
For those who frequent the Eunuch Archive, the two most common reasons are Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID) or Male-to-Eunuch Gender Dysphoria (MtE). These are very different and have very different results.
Those men with BIID find their penis and/or testicles to be foreign bodies that happen to be attached. They are perfectly happy being male, but need those parts removed in order to feel complete. They take testosterone as hormone replacement therapy (HRT) after castration and, other than greater psychological health, are little changed.
Those with MtE know that they are not male, but not female either. After castration they take no HRT or only minimal doses of either testosterone or estrogen to ward off hot flashes and osteoporosis. There are significant psychological and physiological consequences, which vary with the individual.
While those with BIID and those with MtE are both here on the same Internet site, their needs and desires are very different and the consequences of their castration are very different.
There are others here for very different reasons from those main ones, again with different consequences should they achieve castration. There are also a great many who fantasize about castration with no intention of ever following through to reality. Some of them post fictional accounts of the results of their fictional castrations. While the moderators try to remove such posts as potentially dangerous to readers, they don’t always succeed.
Fiction should remain in the Fiction Archive, where it should never be taken as true….
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Re: What are the effects?
Well I'm a nut short due to an accident of sorts. I was nailed quite squarely in the groin by my mare. Dropped me like a sack of bricks. Indescribable pain. Ruptured my right testicle such that it had to be removed, and bruised my other one. I still get pain in my left one on occasion, but it seems to be functioning just fine. Didn't bother with a fake nut as I just don't like the idea of having something implanted in my body. So other then a missing bit of flesh and a growing interest in castration, there were no long term effects on my part.
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Re: What are the effects?
My brother lost one to cancer as is the same as before I have had both of mine removed and take a very low dose of replacment T im so much better now and in control my labido which was ruling me. I still have some drive and get hard but I have to work at it and I still come but it now takes time but I have to say its so much nicer and the result is one I never had before I a very happy eunuch with no regrets.
Thanks
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Re: What are the effects?
I lost a testicle as a baby and i went thru puberty and everything like normal. Actually i have a pretty large member and im probably hornier than average. I really dont like how my penis hangs off balance because of my lopsided sack. Would much prefer it empty.