eunuchs and depression

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eunuchs and depression

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What are the reasons why some eunuchs end up with bad depression and even commit suicide?
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knightbird111 (imported) wrote: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:17 pm What are the reasons why some eunuchs end up with bad depression and even commit suicide?

Lack of testosterone. Some have predisposition and triggered by lack of hormone. Others already have depression, and lack of T sends them even further.
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when it comes to anxiety, is anxiety an issue of low T or high T.

I've researched that Estradiol E2 at high levels causes anxiety. Does Low T make E2 levels rise?
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kristoff wrote: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:33 pm Lack of testosterone. Some have predisposition and triggered by lack of hormone. Others already have depression, and lack of T sends them even further.

The answer to the question almost precedes itself. Everyone is unique. If an analysis of T level of men who have committed suicide were ever done one can only guesstimate that the T range would be generally above low. But no way to know. But sounds like a way to get a government grant; a study on men with low T and the statistical analysis of the number of men who acquired depression (not previously experienced prior to castration), number who committed suicide who had, or did not have, diagnosed depression.

In the end,everyone becomes a digital number in a study. And that is sad. in the real world I would rather see major efforts to help anyone who has developed depression, or is thinking of suicide, regardless of the roots of origin for those feelings. Money spent that way to try and help people, than make a pie chart, would be much better spent..........in my opinion.
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nullorchis (imported) wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:31 am The answer to the question almost precedes itself. Everyone is unique. If an analysis of T level of men who have committed suicide were ever done one can only guesstimate that the T range would be generally above low. But no way to know. But sounds like a way to get a government grant; a study on men with low T and the statistical analysis of the number of men who acquired depression (not previously experienced prior to castration), number who committed suicide who had, or did not have, diagnosed depression.

In the end,everyone becomes a digital number in a study. And that is sad. in the real world I would rather see major efforts to help anyone who has developed depression, or is thinking of suicide, regardless of the roots of origin for those feelings. Money spent that way to try and help people, than make a pie chart, would be much better spent..........in my opinion.

I suspect that those castrated for medical reasons are likely depressed for other reasons beside castration, and there are far too few voluntary eunuchs to put together a statistically valid survey, so we're probably stuck with just anecdotal evidence.

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I continue to bad mouth Lupron. I was on it for a year and a half as part of my prostae cancer treatment. It took some time for the full effects to settle in but once they did I was not a happy camper. I don't know if it was depression or what but I lost my libido and interest in life in general, including my business and was pissed off at the world until I finally refused to take any more injections. It took some time for the effects of that poison to wear off but I was a much happier man once it did. Anybody gets anywhere near me with that stuff again, they'll find out how much fight is left in a 68 yr. old curmudgeon.
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Nvr, I have never been on Lupron, however I have dealt with Low T for years. Your symptoms on Lupron sound alot like how I was most of the time. I am currently on HRT.

Now, if I could just be relieved of these nuts!

Dave
nvrgag44 (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:05 am I continue to bad mouth Lupron. I was on it for a year and a half as part of my prostae cancer treatment. It took some time for the full effects to settle in but once they did I was not a happy camper. I don't know if it was depression or what but I lost my libido and interest in life in general, including my business and was pissed off at the world until I finally refused to take any more injections. It took some time for the effects of that poison to wear off but I was a much happier man once it did. Anybody gets anywhere near me with that stuff again, they'll find out how much fight is left in a 68 yr. old curmudgeon.
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nvrgag44 (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:05 am I continue to bad mouth Lupron. I was on it for a year and a half as part of my prostae cancer treatment. It took some time for the full effects to settle in but once they did I was not a happy camper. I don't know if it was depression or what but I lost my libido and interest in life in general, including my business and was pissed off at the world until I finally refused to take any more injections. It took some time for the effects of that poison to wear off but I was a much happier man once it did. Anybody gets anywhere near me with that stuff again, they'll find out how much fight is left in a 68 yr. old curmudgeon.

Not to go too far afield here, but most of these things you are complaining about sound like the standard castration side effects, at least to me.
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With me, my castration has had no negative effects on me when it comes to depression, the only thing that seems to get me depressed is money issues or problems at work. Otherwise I feel great and have no problems at all with my low T.

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BossTamsin (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:20 pm Not to go too far afield here, but most of these things you are complaining about sound like the standard castration side effects, at least to me.

True enough. The difference is I didn't have the option of TRT to ease the symptoms at the time. My T level now is well below 200 (the radiation must have cooked more than the prostate cancer) but apparently that's high enough. I'm quite comfortable with it. I have a much lower but quite satisfactory libido. I'm much easier to get along with, more comfortable with myself and I love the reduction in body hair.
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