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Testosterone gel

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This a question I cannot find the answer. I am using a testosterone replacement gel. The instructions say place on shoulders and chest. What I am curious about is that the instructions say "do not place on scrotum or genitals." I am just wondering why not? I have googled the internet but cannot find the reason why you shouldn't do this. Every site just says don't do it. This is the same for both brands of the gel. Anyone happen to know what happens if you were to do this?
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baldwin92 (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:03 pm This a question I cannot find the answer. I am using a testosterone replacement gel. The instructions say place on shoulders and chest. What I am curious about is that the instructions say "do not place on scrotum or genitals." I am just wondering why not? I have googled the internet but cannot find the reason why you shouldn't do this. Every site just says don't do it. This is the same for both brands of the gel. Anyone happen to know what happens if you were to do this?

I Googled "apply Androgel on scrotum" this is a link that may answer your question.

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/arch ... 71698.html

Apparently it would be absorbed faster and at a higher percentage rate if applied to your scrotum. That can cause an overdose.
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Eunuchus (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:49 pm I Googled "apply Androgel on scrotum" this is a link that may answer your question.

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/arch ... 71698.html

Apparently it would be absorbed faster and at a higher percentage rate if applied to your scrotum. That can cause an overdose.

absorption is too fast on scrotum. but using a 5mg packet a day will not cause an overdose, except in a very rare case. I use it on chest shoulders, thighs and calfs. I average a T level of 500 ng/dl
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the main reason it should not be applied to the penis or scrotom or abdomen is most likely to prevent having it absorbed through the skin by any sex partner. It could have bad effects on a female partner causing many side effects ranging from unwanted hair growth, birth defects if pregnant, breast cancer? It is a very powerful hormone and shoul be treated with respect. I started using testim last February but switched to testosterone cypionate self injections as they are considerably less expensive. the testim 5 mg costs about $300/month while the injections are only about $40/month. By injecting weekly, there is a relatively constant level whereas there is a roller coaster of highs and lows if injected every other week or monthly. It is adequate for me although I would much prefer to have home grown T but my body doesn't do that anymore. Sucks being me! I still have the desire in my mind but struggle with getting my body to cooperate.
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baldwin92 (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:03 pm This a question I cannot find the answer. I am using a testosterone replacement gel. The instructions say place on shoulders and chest. What I am curious about is that the instructions say "do not place on scrotum or genitals." I am just wondering why not? I have googled the internet but cannot find the reason why you shouldn't do this. Every site just says don't do it. This is the same for both brands of the gel. Anyone happen to know what happens if you were to do this?

Another answer is that high levels of testosterone have been linked to prostate cancer.

Applying the gel on the genitals would give you a high dose in the prostate area.

If a person had undiagnosed prostate cancer, then this could probably be bad to apply the gel on genitals.

If a person did not have prostate cancer, it's a toss up whether or not applying the gel would contribute to getting cancer or not.

Applying to arms and thighs might be OK as those are far from prostate.

I would guess that spreading a thin layer on as much skin on extremities and shoulders would increase the surface area for absorption so that a full dose might give a higher result, or a half dose might give a normal result (and stretch the supply out and cut price in half).

It's not normal testosterone like your body makes. It may help you avoid mental confusion, muscle atrophy, osteporosis, but if you are "over the hill" it is unlikely to make you like a hot horny young stud.

A double or triple dose might. Externally applied testosterone (if you still have balls) will shut down your body's normal production of testosterone, and your balls will shrink and cease to function permanently, if gel is used long enough. So on the one hand, use of gel for a long time could be one way to get a desirable side effect that is castration-like; (maybe). We all respond differently.
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nullorchis (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:58 pm Another answer is that high levels of testosterone have been linked to prostate cancer.

Applying the gel on the genitals would give you a high dose in the prostate area.

If a person had undiagnosed prostate cancer, then this could probably be bad to apply the gel on genitals.

If a person did not have prostate cancer, it's a toss up whether or not applying the gel would contribute to getting cancer or not.

Applying to arms and thighs might be OK as those are far from prostate.

I would guess that spreading a thin layer on as much skin on extremities and shoulders would increase the surface area for absorption so that a full dose might give a higher result, or a half dose might give a normal result (and stretch the supply out and cut price in half).

It's not normal testosterone like your body makes. It may help you avoid mental confusion, muscle atrophy, osteporosis, but if you are "over the hill" it is unlikely to make you like a hot horny young stud.

A double or triple dose might. Externally applied testosterone (if you still have balls) will shut down your body's normal production of testosterone, and your balls will shrink and cease to function permanently, if gel is used long enough. So on the one hand, use of gel for a long time could be one way to get a desirable side effect that is castration-like; (maybe). We all respond differently.

That's not correct. It gets absorbed into the bloodstream from whatever part of the body it is applied to. Location to the prostate is irrelevant. As it was posted by others it is the rate and level of absorption that is the problem. The scrotal skin is considerably thinner than the other parts of the body. The medication will get sucked right in, and at a higher potency. The gel is designed to be absorbed over a 24 hour period when used properly.

It's no different than applying estrogen gel/cream to the breasts. You aren't supposed to do it, but it won't cause growth by being applied directly to the chest. It has to get into the blood stream and circulate to the various receptors throughout the body.
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Not disputing you, just looking also for what is what. If gel is designed to be absorbed over 24 hours why then does the instructions indicate one can swim or shower after a few hours of applying the gel. There must be high absorption at first, then dwindling down. Why not apply 1/4 dose ever six hours? Or a half dose every 12 hours. Or apply just a little to the scrotum every few hours and not use it up as fast and save a lot of money? Why is it that some men who have prostate cancer are given drugs to stop / lower testosterone production, and other men who have prostate cancer are castrated?
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Once and done makes it easy. Remembering to apply a smaller amount over a six hour period would be difficult for most men to do or follow on a daily basis. As a eunuch who low doses testosterone cream/gel, there's no reason for me to do it. I personally like being castrated and like being able to control the amount of "t" in my body. As it is, and I've said this before, I cannot raise or elevate my testosterone by using larger amounts/doses. In fact, if I try to use a larger amount of cream or gel, my body turns it into estrogen. So if you start using testosterone gel, you might want to vary the amount from time to time. If you use the same exact amount daily for several years as I have done, your body might adjust to it and prevent you from raising the amount of testosterone in your system. I am not sure why this has happened, but it must have something to do with aromatase.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromatase
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nullorchis (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:48 am Not disputing you, just looking also for what is what. If gel is designed to be absorbed over 24 hours why then does the instructions indicate one can swim or shower after a few hours of applying the gel. There must be high absorption at first, then dwindling down. Why not apply 1/4 dose ever six hours? Or a half dose every 12 hours. Or apply just a little to the scrotum every few hours and not use it up as fast and save a lot of money? Why is it that some men who have prostate cancer are given drugs to stop / lower testosterone production, and other men who have prostate cancer are castrated?

After you apply it, it gets absorbed into the skin and slowly seeps into the bloodstream. It is like a reservoir of T that last for the day. After so many hours, it won't wash off any longer because it is so deep into the tissues. Wherever you apply it, it goes into the bloodstream and does it's work. It isn't localized to the application site. The 'danger' of applying it to the scrotum is absorbing too much too fast. The excess would most likely lead to raised Estrogen levels as it gets converted off.
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What kinda gel would a women use to get horny. My girl is 61 and no longer gets horny.
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