Pinhole castration?

[dodo1943 (imported)]

Well I got my blood testosterone by a note from my GP (he does not want to see me as all other tests (liver, thyroid, kidney, lipids, glucose) were 'normal'). So was the testosterone 17.6 on a scale from 8.6 to 29. (what units were the lab.using??). So more work to do, even tho' my tits are sensitive like they have never been, my boobs are growing and I have put fat on where I have never had it before with no change in weight. No libido either. And a shrunken package before today.

I ligated my cords on both sides yesterday at 16.00h. Am pretty sore at the ligatures and pain is spreading up in my lower belly towards the iliac crests. No testicular pain yet, tho' they have both swollen to about 2x yesterday's size. My sac has been bunched up since early this morning. Am not feeling nauseous, but more dry mouthed than the last few months. The soreness gave me a bad night; I was most comfortable on my back but in that position I snore and wake my partner. If I lay on either side as normal, the upper ligature got pulled and became more sore! Will stick it out for another night and hope to get to 48hrs. Dodo

[dib44 (imported)]

My partner came across this thread whilst home on leave and it seems to have grabbed his attention somewhat, having role played banding and clamping and experimented with chemical castration he now would like to experiment with this technique as all the items we need are readily available, BUT I have a major concern here.

Simple enough technique to follow, but here is my concern,

when finally ligating the cords it seems very, very easy to lose the ligation back down into the scrotum

via the catgut suture hole, now while it takes up to 90 days to be absorbed into the body

full ligation is achieved for up to 7 days, if we lost the ligation into the scrotum

it would be virtually impossible to retrieve it, causing possible permanent damage,

how do you guys get around this problem ?

I can only summarize that leaving long tails at the ligation would help somewhat.

[dodo1943 (imported)]

That's why I use what I call 'external ligation', DiB44, the floss goes in one side and out the other, and I then tie the cord plus about 4cm of scrotal skin as tight as I can using the hangman's knot. This latest time I achieved ligature lengths of ca 3.4cm, not quite the tightest. The scrotal skin always swells each side of the thread, but it has always been possible to get the point of very pointed scissors under the thread to cut it even after four days.

This time I only lasted for 42hours, before the soreness at the lig. sites became too much and I cut the ligatures and pulled them out. The serious soreness was gone after 2 hours, and now six days later it has gone altogether. My scrotum and contents swelled after releasing the ligs. from 1.5 handfuls to more than 2 handfuls, and are now down to pre ligature 'normal'; I'm hoping my testes with shrink further. The right T is firm but completely numb, and the left T is soft and slightly sensitive to the tightest squeeze I can give it with fingers and thumb. My right tit is swollen and sore to the touch. I think I got a slight testosterone peak after releasing the ligs. with a night of several erections, and an echo of these 120hours later. It seems to me that anoxia may kill sperm production and the nerves before it kills all the Leydig cells. Dodo

[dodo1943 (imported)]

All looks normal now, no lumps on the cords, and no scars or scabs. Both sides are a little smaller at their minimum than they were, other signs much the same as they were, except that my right boob has developed a firm blob of tissue just behind the tit, about 4cm across and 2cm thick and sensitive to squeeze. Only soft fat on the left side. Any ideas what has happened. I hope its not cancer! Dodo

[dodo1943 (imported)]

Dodo back again. Wife noticed right boob and suggested that I might go to her doctor. Did so. He is puzzled,and has referred me to a ! breast surgeon ! as it is on the RHS only. He aslo pronounced my testes normal, my prostate normal but small, and did a PSA which was 'normal'. So, as far as the medical establishment are concerned I have got nowhere in my journey to eunuchdom. On the good side.for me, I have lost any interest in sex, don't have any obstruction to urine flow, and appear 'normal'. Will wait awhile before doing anything new like ethyl alcohol injections. Thanks again to all who replied to this thread.

[dodo1943 (imported)]

Dodo here again.I have just released my left testis from 81 hours of ligation. This time there was no deep abdominal pain, only increasing soreness at the ligature and gardual swelling of both the testis and tubes. After 81 hours my package was about double its usual volume, with my penis retracting into the top of my scrotum, and the right testis displaced well over to the right. I had to sit with legs well apart and walking was becoming more difficult because my scrotum was so sore at the ligature site. Since releasing the ligature both testes have swollen (immune response), but (18hr later) I can walk without soreness, but still have to sit with legs well apart. My left testis is numb again (sensation was gradually returning before ligation). My package is cool, so ? no infection.

The growing lump in my right breast has more or less disappeared since I stopped taking soya (milk,yogurt and cream). Male rats fed with genistein (an oestrogen analogue in soya) developed small breasts (J.Sex.Med.(2007)4,930-955.) so maybe old male humans with defective/damaged testosterone production respond likewise.

[dodo1943 (imported)]

Just a quick update on my last ligation. I have exacerbated the varicocele on that side with the result that my package has got larger because of the permanently swollen veins on the left. It is also more sensitive than it was before. Otherwise signs of low testosterone remain... some boob development, extra fat on buttocks, mons pubis and inner thighs (3cm) as well as generally (1cm); weight constant so must have lost muscle mass; nocturnal erections only after eating male meat/fish, no spontaneous erections; no libido; frequent hungry/dry mouthed feeling; shrunken prostate and no prostatic secretion. Must do the right side again soon. Dodo.

[Pirlouit (imported)]

Thanks for the update.

It seems you're on your way to become eunuch.

Good luck with the right one and be careful.

Keep us informed

[dodo1943 (imported)]

Dodo here again. I have just released my right testis from its tightest (28mm) and longest ligation (116hr, nearly five days). During the whole period it was ca 6x its normal volume and lay horizontally in my bunched-up scrotum. Apart from the external soreness at the ligation site I had little or no pain or nausea (its nerves must have been killed in earlier ligations) and I could do normal things, though my enlarged sac & t's meant I waddled a bit and had to sit with my legs apart. I felt dry-mouthed/hungry all the time. Now it is released the right T has swelled even more to almost spherical 65mm diam. My left T has also swelled as part of the immune reaction, but I am waddling less and can sit with my legs together because there is no pain or soreness. I am still wearing supportive breifs.

I wanked before doing the ligation and produced a clear, colourless slippery fluid with no smell. Both boobs are 'handlable' and the more female subcutaneous fat is all around my tum, bum and thighs.

For those who want to do this to themselves, I have to say do one side at once,as doing both at once causes too much pain to keep the ligatures in place long enough to kill the T's. I'll tell you more if anything new happens.

[dodo1943 (imported)]

Nearly a year after my last post. I have done one further ligation on each side, each lasting over 4 days. I think I must have got an infection in my left vas deferens from the last ligation because I got a persistent UTI as well as a hard swelling in my left epidydimis, both of which sent me to my GP. A single course of antibiotic cleared the UTI. A ultrasound exam found two 'normal' testes, varicoceles on both sides (I have had one on the left for decades, but could have caused the one on the right by ligation), a slightly enlarged prostate (? from the UTI) and normal kidneys.All the feminisation signs persist, and run counter to the medical findings. I am tempted to try Calcium Chloride injections as per recent thread, but would like to know what still functions inside my testes after all the ligations. I suppose that all of us who have tried injections, banding, clamping or ligations must still have doubts about their efficacy compared with the 'gold standard' of orchiectomy however that is performed. Self castration seems far too hazardous to attempt and the nearest surgical orchiectomy is effectively a million miles away. I do not want to get prostate cancer; only last week I heard of another friend who has got it. Another friend died from it last year. My father died from it and my brother-in-law has it. My other brother in law and one (out of three) uncles both had operations for BPH. There is an epidemic of prostate disease in Western countries and one of the most effective, life-long preventative methods has to be castration. Paul