Elastrator

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The problem is that while you can indeed do it such that the testicles die and fall off, it involves serious necrosis and dry gangrene. Here is a picture of a guy after his balls fell off from an elastrator castration. You can see the dangerousness of this. There's another picture I can't find right now showing the rotten balls. They are seriously like greenish/black and moldy looking

http://wiki.bmezine.com/images/a/a3/Elastrator-3.jpg
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5 years ago I performed a self circumcision with a plasti bell. After 4 days the smell indicated a necrosis and the ER just kept me there, an hour later I was under the scalpel.

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Perhaps it would be of some merit for me to restate my view of Elastrator castration. I understand that it works adequately, for some farmers, for castrating and docking some farm animals. Living in farming country during much of my youth and, after a hiatus of many years of pretending to be a city person, again in farming country (in an unincorporated rural town), I am aware of animal husbandry methods. Never having been such a farmer, I only have heard stories.

With that as preamble, I have been informed that male sheep are evidently, overtly, remarkably indifferent to Elastrator banding. As I have been told, from multiple sources, put the band on, wait for about a week, whack the sheep "there" with a stick, and the job is done.

People, human males? Absent some form of congenital insensitivity to pain, no such "luck."

Around 1984, I bought an Elastrator and bands via the Sears Roebuck Farm Catalog. Did I use it on myself? No. That idea never satisfied my personal sense of safety. What I did with it was to use it as a persuader for a doctor.

Having concluded (accurately in retrospect, but not in prospect because the future has never happened (because it is always of what has yet to happen? When what is presently of the future becomes the present, then -- and only then, can what has yet to happen actually happen?) that I was at personally unacceptable risk of dying from cancer before my duties as a father and husband were decently completed, I chose to do all that I found practicable to defer my dying of cancer, and preferably to delay my dying from cancer until long after I had already died from "old age." So far, so good.

By the mid 1950s, I had figured out that testosterone appeared to "cause" cancer in some men. Both of my parents had studied biology in college, I had access to a very decent library at home and was aware of close relatives who died rather young from "strange" conditions. Having understood since very early childhood that I am somewhere within the transgendered spectrum, the thought of not always having testicles has seemed appropriate to me. The thought of being married with children also has seemed appropriate to me. So, during my grade school years, it occurred to me that, were testicles and I to part company, I might patiently wait until testicles had become only a personal liability, and such is what I did.

The doctor who finally understood that testicles and I were going different ways, and that this was not, with me, a negotiable matter, and who told me how to get my orchiectomy safely accomplished without going to see Dr. Spector, died a while ago. He indicated, as he told me how to proceed, that there would be no hint of his telling me what he said in my chart, and no hint of my having even raised the question. I can quote part of what he said without outing him or anyone else. He said he would not do anything for me regarding some castration, but that "some doctor in a third-rate hospital" might do an orchiectomy.

So, I began checking with vasectomy clinics, until I came upon a doctor whose dad had recently died following (unsuccessful) prostate cancer treatment, and who had the necessary skills and surgical setting for doing safe, outpatient vasectomies. My purpose in getting my orchiectomy was to live better and longer than I thought possible without it. So far, my purpose seems to have been profoundly validated. I am well past twenty years older than my brother was when he died from the sort of cancer I set out to prevent.

With the new WPATH Standards of Care, Male-to-Eunuch may be on the way to becoming medically acceptable with more doctors, and my method of getting a safe orchiectomy will, I surely trust and hope, become completely unnecessary.

My method? Elastrator and bands in hand, said to the doctor, in effect, "If you don't, I will."

I observe reasons other than probable cancer risk are no less valid than my reasons. Discomfort with mismatch between mental body image and body can be far more distressing, in my view, than a future cancer risk.

Because, it seems to me, there is a social convention to the effect that everyone is dishonest, and especially dishonest about self, many folks with whom I have talked seem to regard a valid sense of selfhood to be some sort of dishonesty. I find that utterly tragic.

People use alcohol injections, Burdizzos, and a variety of other tools and techniques in their efforts to live satisfactory lives. I used my Elastrator and bands as persuaders, and, given access to a proper doctor, as effective persuaders.

I found it wise to attempt to avoid what was happening, outside my awareness, to my brother at the time of my orchiectomy; dying from surgically-preventable cancer at age 50. At my present age of 72, I find getting my orchiectomy was, by every test I can find or imagine, one of the wisest decisions of my entire life.

Post-surgical (orchiectomy) complications? None. No bothersome pain. No infection. I was at work the next day, with no interference with my work from having had the orchiectomy late during the previous afternoon.

I would love to live long enough to see others who, in ways similar to me, find life and testicles to have become incompatible, to have practical access to even better and safer medical care than I was able to get in 1986.

Not once, not for a fraction of an instant, have I regretted becoming castrated as I was.

Osteoporosis? I take alendronate and get much physical exercise. That beats, to me, being dead from testosterone-driven cancer. Dead from cancer, my testicles would be dead anyway. As are my brother's testicles, along with the rest of his body.

Living with sufficient disparity between mental body image and actual body is, to me, much like a living death, one's authenticity as a real person being continually denied and denigrated.

In the absence of anything better that actually works, whatever people do in asserting their individual personal validity surely merits endorsement.
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I have personally used an elastrator on livestock, if they could get it off they would, they often literally throw themselves on the ground in pain.

Nice fantasy but as far as actually getting it done? I think most would be so consumed with the pain they would get it off by any means. To actually do it alone by this method would require a lot of self control or pain medication.

Besides that human bathing habits could lead to it rotting instead of drying up. Not pleasant.
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I have taken my left testicle out with an elastrator. It was unbelievable easy. About one hour after I applied three rings pain was pretty unbearable and I started to cut rings off, I cut one ring out and pain subsided a little bit so I could easily leave two rings on. In about half an hours latter pain started to disappear and diminished almost completely in about two hours. I added third ring back on and about four hour after I had applied rings I cut everything out outside of three rings. There was minimal pain from there on. Since I did not take my rings off before they fell off after 25 days there was not ugly looking unhealed section like:
There was not much rotting skin since I cut everything off after four hours.

I did this in august 2008. I have applied rings several times to my right testicle and a few times past one hour when pain starts to subside so I know I could easily take my right one out any time I wanted to. I have given right one some alcohol injections and now my testosterone level is a quiet a bit under normal levels. I don't think I will cut off free testosterone and start paying for it so I am not planing to take out my remaining testicle or damage it any more. Right now I am happy with my results.

It is important not to cut out rings before they are ready to fall off unless one wants to have ugly looking unhealed section like in the picture of the website mentioned above.

I hope you excuse my English since it is my second language.
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As always, take everything you read here with a grain of salt of the appropriate size. Unless you are on a sodium-restricted diet, of course.
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Looks like Ieunuch doubts me, but every word is true in my account of removing left testicle with an elastrator rings.
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I should still mention that I used extra strength Lanacane cream, I spread it over my testicle sac before applying rings. I have tried to apply rings without Lanacane and pain is much stronger without it and would be unbearable. Lanacane takes the edge out so it would be possible to take the pain. I did take a few pictures but I don't like to put them on display or share them and find them in the BME latter on.
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BossTamsin (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:25 pm As always, take everything you read here with a grain of salt of the appropriate size.

Wow, I would think that salt would make it sting really bad. :D
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It is interesting that in a several months not one person has been interested about my experience of self castration of one of my testicles.
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