Why Do We Hear So Much About The Kardashians And Not This?

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Why Do We Hear So Much About The Kardashians And Not This?

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Last night I crept away from the computer for a brief period and caught some television. My parents were watching Q&A, which is a discussion/debate show in Australian. Each week they discuss something different. Last night it was about the poor standard of living that the aboriginals have in this country - something that I have next to no knowledge about really.

But still, having little knowledge can mean asking more questions, which can be good.

What popped up in my mind was how negative an attitude aboriginals often seem to have. Sure, they have had it incredibly tough. Historically the white man (which includes me) has treated them as basically not human - in fact I have had it said before that the treatment given to the aborigines is worse than that ever experienced by any native race, which may or may not be true.

I just think that sometimes people have to say enough, and stop living in regret about the past. To me, too many aboriginals seem to play the victim. And we all can that. Geez, I kept complaining for years that I was unattractive; when in fact I had nothing to complain about.

That is not perhaps a good example; as I've said aboriginals are a lot worse off than caucasians in this country. I just don't think that they help themselves a lot of the time with their attitude.

Some people or groups are always going to say that you did/do the wrong thing no matter what action you take. At some point in recent history some authorities including the army went into a mostly aboriginal populated town and took matters into their own hands, because apparently many of the men were treating the women horribly (as basically not human), raping and bashing them. This can be a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Many criticise them for taking matters into their own hands. There would be the same criticism for not doing anything and allowing the raping and bashing to continue.

Perhaps could be considered slightly similar to Afghanistan, where the women are treated with disdain; do we attempt to change the culture to some extent, or do we just let them be?

Criticism will be rife either way.

We can't just give lots of money to aboriginal communities if that money is going to be mostly pissed up against the wall. So what do we do? Any suggestions.

It was said that many current day aboriginal children don't see any light in their future. There are not many jobs in the Northern Territory townships where they reside. Again, how do we change this?

It occurred to me that IMO, aboriginal people are very physically unattractive - generally speaking. How much of a negative effect does this have?

My comment just made could be considered highly racist - and perhaps it is - but I don't care. I really do think that aboriginals are usually less attractive than caucasians; how much does this effect the balance of success between the races?

I have heard it said before that the modelling industry is unsupportive of aboriginals because there aren't many models, but they aren't pro or negative towards any race; just towards beautiful and not. But you couldn't say this stuff in a politically correct society (the truth hurts a lot of the time) as you will be bombarded with "black is beautiful" type of commentary. But I think this goes for the men and women. How many women (or gay men) consider the aboriginal stars of AFL football to be hunks? And how do they compare to the star caucasians?

But please don't compare them with Cameron Ling ;)

Beautiful humans don't necessarily mean happy though, and vice versa. I have found that Samoan/Islander/Fiji type of race to be generally very happy go lucky folk. Yet you don't see too many gracing the covers the womens and mens magazines.

As for the thread title, the television show was posting tweets from viewers while the experts spoke, and that is one of them. The Kardashians are relatively beautiful, though an interesting thing is that it is women who have made them rich. I doubt that too many men tune into their television show.

Not for more than a couple of minutes anyway ;)
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People don't like what is different from them, he who has the money controls the color.

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Riverwind (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:23 am People don't like what is different from them, he who has the money controls the color.

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Perhaps I didn't victimise myself for too long in life in regards to not seeing myself as attractive; the yummy mummy at work has often said that she is getting fat/is not hot, etc. Not true.

It is of course a bit different for a woman though. She doesn't care if you find her attractive. She only cares if you find her attractive enough to value her above all other women; or to at least like her enough to find it worthwhile to lie so much about it as for her to believe it.

Most of our occasional lite emails just have me continuously saying in inverted brackets, "so, do you want to f..k?" and her inverted brackets will contain, "I'm flattered, but only a little, as you wouldn't choose me over your girlfriend would ya?"

So true.

River, it is an interesting possibility that you raise about us (or some of us) not being attracted to others because they look different to us.

Though I'm not sure that it's particularly true.

For example I (a caucasian) obviously find other caucasians very attractive, but then there are many East Asians that I find pretty, then Indian race girls that are beautiful, Moroccan women who are smoking and then South American women who I find the hottest of all.

Perhaps I should travel to Columbia if I am unable to remove my sex drive ;)

But I still stand by my view that aboriginals are not a very attractive race.

On another Australian television forum/group discussion program called Insight, there was talk about plastic surgery recently, and of what supposedly the perfect look/beauty is - which seems to do with the way our eyes, nose, etc are aligned or whatever. But shouldn't this mean that there would be as high a percentage of attractive aboriginal women as there are latinas?

Or are the facial features of different races very different and not just the skin colour?

I'm not saying that all women in Columbia are stunning by the way. I'm not going to step off the plane and go, "what the hell are you doing here missy?!" when I see someone not so easy on my eyes ;)

Yes, it is very important to laugh. To have a sense of humor. I hope to keep at least some of this if I take on Androcur.

Anyway, some of the women were keen to have their skin lightened; which in one case was ridiculous. There was an Indian woman who was particularly beautiful, but she said that she couldn't get work as a model because they tended to choose lighter skinned Indian girls - so this I suppose could be considered racism. My dad and I really couldn't work this out, as to how she - and supposedly others - didn't find her to be very beautiful.

The whole beauty or not thing is VERY harsh - which is why most people probably don't wish to discuss it. I was quite struck by something that happened at my work about 5 months ago. I was talking rather amicably with one woman, and we got around to talking about us both being chocoholics, but how we are lucky and don't put weight on. Anyway, she seemed to want to totally dismiss the importance of humans (and particularly of women) not being fat in order to attract others (as if it was still mostly about what's on the inside). She decided to bring up a particularly overweight woman, and how she is a beautiful girl (and she is on the inside), and how some guys like women like that. I bit my tongue and probably just did a little head nodding.

No they do NOT!

Unfortunately :-(

She mostly dates guys who are unattractive; islander/maori types (whom she says that she is more attracted to than other guys, probably to avoid embarrassment), and they date her because they don't have access to the more beautiful, skinnier woman. I actually don't think that this sort of conversation should be held in public; some bent truths are for the best, and nobody deserves to feel like digging themselves into a hole (in particular the woman I'm referring to who is really a rather cool chick and we have a lot of laughs together at work, mostly disgusting humur, I can just aboue get away with saying anything!), but I was just so taken aback at the way the other woman went out of her way to say that; like she really believed it, or really wanted to believe it. I'm not sure.

Or do women really find maori guys attractive? It's possible. They are bulky, very manly; women can love that.

We all want to think that others like us just for who we are, and it can become like that, but initially it is not really true. I believe that I was given the opportunity to meet certain women because I am rather handsome; that if I wasn't handsome I probably wouldn't have met them, or had the same sort of interaction (not definitely true, but it's good to brainstorm). I think that women (and to a lesser extent men) are born with attractiveness in order to have the opportunity to get another to find their mind attractive, and in some cases to have them finding their mind to be even more attractive than their outer form.

And yes this is possible, though very difficult to actually prove.

All of us one day will become physically invisible; by that time we need to have made another love our inner form.

It is a shame that some people are basically born invisible.

But those of us who are not should not feel guilty about our good fortune; rather we should make the most of it, in the ways of some of the points made above.
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