Chemical Castration and Viagra.
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vickitransgirl (imported)
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Chemical Castration and Viagra.
This question may be a little on the hypocritical side, but I am wondering if self induced ED via a regimen of Androcur/Tamoxifen would stop anti ED drugs such as Viagra working? i.e. Can I get an erection using viagra if impotent due to Chemical castration drugs?
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janekane (imported)
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Re: Chemical Castration and Viagra.
The first edition (1969) of "Everything you always wanted to know about sex * but were afraid to ask," by David Ruben, M.D., has some historical data that I find decently accurate about the variability of individual response to low testosterone, some such data having been derived from soldiers injured during times of war.
My view, as one who has intensively studied biology as part of my profession, is that biological diversity is so great, and results of androgen-blocking drugs so variable, that only a rough estimate of diverse probable outcomes is realistic.
While the mental experience of erection/orgasm may seem simple, the neuroanatomy of such is rather complex, usually involving not less than two spinal ganglia and a gaggle of interacting afferent and efferent pathways, most of which are supposedly of the autonomous nervous system.
While there may be statistical probabilities as to your question, an individual person is not, in a useful sense regarding your question, a statistical probability; you may have to do much as I had to do. I made a carefully thought through choice and learned the results after making the choice.
There seems to be a common human desire to know, in errorless detail, everything about all of the unforeseeable events of the future.
It has been just over 25 years that I have been without testicles and other than very low testosterone levels (yes, it has been measured), and I have yet to have the slightest hint of "ED."
Had I wanted to develop ED or lose the ability to have orgasms nearly indistinguishable from those I had prior to the bilateral orchiectomy, I suppose I would have been dreadfully disappointed.
Instead of making a choice, the results of which I knew for sure in advance, I made the choice my life experiences led me to make and learned what happened as a result only after the result had happened.
And I have yet to experience the first twinge of regret regarding my bilateral orchiectomy. However, a noteworthy aspect of my enjoyment of being alive is the way my choices tend to result in surprises.
It was a surprise that my understanding of biology apparently resulted in the effects of my orchiectomy being remarkably akin to what I guessed they might be.
What were many of those guesses like? They were like, "I will learn something, and I will not know what it is until I have learned it."
A lecturer I heard a while ago remarked to the effect that an intellectual is someone who has something in mind more important than sex. Perhaps I am some sort of blankety-blank intellectual; were I an intellectual, I might be able to figure that out.
I expect the unexpected, and am not always disappointed.
Get together 10,000 people, do much the same to every person, and one might be able to predict about how many will have what sort of result, but not which individual person will have which result.
My view, as one who has intensively studied biology as part of my profession, is that biological diversity is so great, and results of androgen-blocking drugs so variable, that only a rough estimate of diverse probable outcomes is realistic.
While the mental experience of erection/orgasm may seem simple, the neuroanatomy of such is rather complex, usually involving not less than two spinal ganglia and a gaggle of interacting afferent and efferent pathways, most of which are supposedly of the autonomous nervous system.
While there may be statistical probabilities as to your question, an individual person is not, in a useful sense regarding your question, a statistical probability; you may have to do much as I had to do. I made a carefully thought through choice and learned the results after making the choice.
There seems to be a common human desire to know, in errorless detail, everything about all of the unforeseeable events of the future.
It has been just over 25 years that I have been without testicles and other than very low testosterone levels (yes, it has been measured), and I have yet to have the slightest hint of "ED."
Had I wanted to develop ED or lose the ability to have orgasms nearly indistinguishable from those I had prior to the bilateral orchiectomy, I suppose I would have been dreadfully disappointed.
Instead of making a choice, the results of which I knew for sure in advance, I made the choice my life experiences led me to make and learned what happened as a result only after the result had happened.
And I have yet to experience the first twinge of regret regarding my bilateral orchiectomy. However, a noteworthy aspect of my enjoyment of being alive is the way my choices tend to result in surprises.
It was a surprise that my understanding of biology apparently resulted in the effects of my orchiectomy being remarkably akin to what I guessed they might be.
What were many of those guesses like? They were like, "I will learn something, and I will not know what it is until I have learned it."
A lecturer I heard a while ago remarked to the effect that an intellectual is someone who has something in mind more important than sex. Perhaps I am some sort of blankety-blank intellectual; were I an intellectual, I might be able to figure that out.
I expect the unexpected, and am not always disappointed.
Get together 10,000 people, do much the same to every person, and one might be able to predict about how many will have what sort of result, but not which individual person will have which result.
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SplitDik (imported)
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Re: Chemical Castration and Viagra.
vickitransgirl (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:30 pm This question may be a little on the hypocritical side, but I am wondering if self induced ED via a regimen of Androcur/Tamoxifen would stop anti ED drugs such as Viagra working? i.e. Can I get an erection using viagra if impotent due to Chemical castration drugs?
Viagra works entirely differently. It doesn't depend on androgens (which are blocked by chemical castration drugs). Rather it directly relaxes the "valves" that control the blood flow to the penis. You'll get an erection even if you're not horny at all with Viagra. I'm pretty sure that Viagra would cause an erection even if you're otherwise not interested in sex. I take Viagra recreationally (don't have ED but it is fun to be able to keep an erection for multiple sessions with the wife) and usually take it about an hour before I think we might do something. I'll be totally doing something else (not thinking sexually) and my wife will go "wow you're excited". So it is really quite autonomous.
If you have certain types of ED that are due to penis damage, then Viagra won't help. But if the penis is otherwise fine, then no matter what your mental or hormonal state is it should give an erection.