Freedom is Another Word for Nothing Left to Lose By: Sander
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Re: Freedom is Another Word for Nothing Left to Lose By: Sander
Hi Sander!
This story sure has a different flavour than your usual, that's for sure. I'm liking it a lot, and to a degree, for different reasons than others of yours.
It's a complete divergence from the San Carlos idea of sexual slavery; while that was hugely fun, it was also very surreal and futuristic, making it more cartoony in nature...
... Freedom, however, feels very, almost disturbingly, real. I had trouble getting into it once the boys were semi-voluntarily kidnapped; when I put myself into the boys' position, as I usually do when reading these, I felt nothing but fear. While we know at least some of them survive, the likelihood of them being killed is so, so high. This lends massive drama to the story, though!
You've done well also at giving us readers what we want at times, too. The little zing-moments are plentiful, even with this being a far more dramatic story than usual. To be honest, by the third chapter or so, I was just starting to think that this was going to go the Government-Conspiracy-hypnotic-suggestion route; I was just WAITING for you to reveal how it was that FOUR kids in a class were interested in losing their nuts... but then, poof!, the story went another way entirely.
Whew.... great ride, so far!
Thanks for putting lots of effort into this; I can tell it's appreciated around here. Great job!
This story sure has a different flavour than your usual, that's for sure. I'm liking it a lot, and to a degree, for different reasons than others of yours.
It's a complete divergence from the San Carlos idea of sexual slavery; while that was hugely fun, it was also very surreal and futuristic, making it more cartoony in nature...
... Freedom, however, feels very, almost disturbingly, real. I had trouble getting into it once the boys were semi-voluntarily kidnapped; when I put myself into the boys' position, as I usually do when reading these, I felt nothing but fear. While we know at least some of them survive, the likelihood of them being killed is so, so high. This lends massive drama to the story, though!
You've done well also at giving us readers what we want at times, too. The little zing-moments are plentiful, even with this being a far more dramatic story than usual. To be honest, by the third chapter or so, I was just starting to think that this was going to go the Government-Conspiracy-hypnotic-suggestion route; I was just WAITING for you to reveal how it was that FOUR kids in a class were interested in losing their nuts... but then, poof!, the story went another way entirely.
Whew.... great ride, so far!
Thanks for putting lots of effort into this; I can tell it's appreciated around here. Great job!
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Re: Freedom is Another Word for Nothing Left to Lose By: Sander
I'm following the story with great interest. Like so many others I'm wondering what happens to the eunuchs when they get a bit too old.
Reading these stories is a great motivator for me to get writing again. I think I'll write a story where the hero is Russian. Russians have such a bad reputation on this website.
Reading these stories is a great motivator for me to get writing again. I think I'll write a story where the hero is Russian. Russians have such a bad reputation on this website.
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Re: Freedom is Another Word for Nothing Left to Lose By: Sander
Josh Goodman (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:51 pm I think I'll write a story where the hero is Russian. Russians have such a bad reputation on this website.
I very much hope you will finish The White Van Cometh, True Lies and Danger Will Robinson!!! before you write the Russian story.
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Re: Freedom is Another Word for Nothing Left to Lose By: Sander
Josh Goodman (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:51 pm Reading these stories is a great motivator for me to get writing again. I think I'll write a story where the hero is Russian. Russians have such a bad reputation on this website.
Russians have a bad reputation? Well yes, I guess they do.
But Middle Eastern people get it just as bad or worse. According to most stories involving eunuch sex slaves, they are destined for some Sheikh's Harem.
Even worse than either of those, is by far the biggest villain in almost any eunuch story. That is the Caucasian. Mostly those who are English speaking, and of European descent.
I'm making an educated guess, based solely on only the stories I have read, but I'd say well over 50% of the villains are English speaking whites. Of that educated guess, I'd say it would break down to about 60% - 40%, male then female.
I'll go one further. I'd say that it is pretty much a lock that if there is pre-pubescent castration involved in the story, and there is a character who is a white intact male, then the white intact male is the villain. Or, will at a minimum abuse the children in some perverse way.
I'd say that the character Roger, in Sander's latest story, was pretty indicative of that stereotype. Even the clients all seem to be white, English speaking males.
How interesting would it be if one of the boy's next clients was a perverse woman? Someone seeking a passive eunuch to dominate.
There is a definite trend in who the villains are in the EA stories. Villains seldom break from preset stereotypes. They are easy to write. You need only say something like; "The grizzled and tattooed Russian." or "The sneering Arabic Oil-Barron." To paint a picture of villain we don't need to know any more about.
I'd like to see more stories that break the villain mold. I also understand when they don't.
In Sander's case, I can see he wanted to spend more time on the boys and their experience than on the villains. Nothing wrong with that, if it serves the story.
It would be nice to see more stories avoid the stereotypes. We should be careful of who we offend. We are a pretty diverse bunch here on the EA. There is no reason to single just one group out.
I look forward to your pro-Russian story. I myself am working on one where I turn the stereotype about the Middle East on its head. We need more of that.
I'm really enjoying Sander's story. I always like his stuff.
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Re: Freedom is Another Word for Nothing Left to Lose By: Sander
Am enjoying the great writing in this story and the thoughts that must have been pondered while writing. Am enjoying all the parts so far. I guess, to me, is the "slave" aspect of the story with disappearances of some who have aged too m uch for the facility. Thankfully, part 9 makes it sound as though there is hope that the boys survive and get their heart's desires in the end.
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Re: Freedom is Another Word for Nothing Left to Lose By: Sander
Okay so this story definitely twisted like a pretzel. But I can't say I was surprised...you just knew Roger was a bastard from the start. With him it was never a matter of if...just when. What a miserable snake!
This story is a bit dark but there's nothing wrong with a little suspense and conflict. There's also nice depth to the protagonists. What's provoking about the story is the realism. No, not the four boys in the same class wanting to become eunuchs...but rather slavery. It's a disturbing worldwide issue and this story brings it to the forefront. I can't but help hope at least these four find their way out of the mess.
Thanks for a very intriguing story Sander!
Originally Posted by Cainanite
Villains...
But wouldn't it be interesting to learn more about the dreaded V-man? Roger in this story is a selfish prick of the worst sort. But how did he end up that way? And yep I've attempted to delve into that within my own writings here on the Archive. Sure I hate the villain I've created but I want to know what makes him tick and if he is salvageable...or whether he should be taken out with the morning trash. I'm also curious as to the workings of grey characters...the despised guy doing contrary things that end up just fine or the supposed hero who actually harbors dark traits.
Tad
This story is a bit dark but there's nothing wrong with a little suspense and conflict. There's also nice depth to the protagonists. What's provoking about the story is the realism. No, not the four boys in the same class wanting to become eunuchs...but rather slavery. It's a disturbing worldwide issue and this story brings it to the forefront. I can't but help hope at least these four find their way out of the mess.
Thanks for a very intriguing story Sander!
Originally Posted by Cainanite
Villains...
Cainanite (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:41 pm seldom break from preset stereotypes. They are easy to write. You need only say something like; "The grizzled and tattooed Russian." or "The sneering Arabic Oil-Barron." To paint a picture of villain we don't need to know any more.
But wouldn't it be interesting to learn more about the dreaded V-man? Roger in this story is a selfish prick of the worst sort. But how did he end up that way? And yep I've attempted to delve into that within my own writings here on the Archive. Sure I hate the villain I've created but I want to know what makes him tick and if he is salvageable...or whether he should be taken out with the morning trash. I'm also curious as to the workings of grey characters...the despised guy doing contrary things that end up just fine or the supposed hero who actually harbors dark traits.
Tad
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Re: Freedom is Another Word for Nothing Left to Lose By: Sander
Still enjoying this story. Takers a lot of thought and imagination to construct such an entertaining story. Part 13 was very interesting in that it really does point up the fact that the boys being changed come from pretty poor backgrounds family wise. Or so it seems. Still would like for them to get back to whatever family they have....or given the option of going back staying.
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Re: Freedom is Another Word for Nothing Left to Lose By: Sander
Maybe one of the boys will escape when the van he is in crashes. He likes being home until everyone learns that he was nullified. How will he deal with all his friends and classmates knowing he doesn't have any boy parts? Will he shower with the other boys since they all know anyway?
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Re: Freedom is Another Word for Nothing Left to Lose By: Sander
Remember back on the first page of this comment thread where I said I was having difficulty with the realism of the kidnapping aspect of the story?
I guess I still feel that way, however now, the realism is what's keeping me grounded while reading this. My heart sunk right down into my stomach when Tommy started talking about how he expects to be killed by a client eventually.
This particular roller-coaster of a story sure does have its high and low moments! And I don't mean quality; that has been consistently high throughout. I mean emotionally. Parts read like other stories that are more fetishistically* arousing, while others crash me into deeply scary feelings.
Very well done piece of work, Sander. Hope it goes on for a while!
* is that a word?
I guess I still feel that way, however now, the realism is what's keeping me grounded while reading this. My heart sunk right down into my stomach when Tommy started talking about how he expects to be killed by a client eventually.
This particular roller-coaster of a story sure does have its high and low moments! And I don't mean quality; that has been consistently high throughout. I mean emotionally. Parts read like other stories that are more fetishistically* arousing, while others crash me into deeply scary feelings.
Very well done piece of work, Sander. Hope it goes on for a while!
* is that a word?
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Re: Freedom is Another Word for Nothing Left to Lose By: Sander
Help, I had started to read this story but did not get a chance to finish any of it after about the third chapter. Is there any way to obtain a copy of the rest of the story? Will there be a place here for future chapter's or new stories? Great to see this new venue and hope the archive is reintroduced and continued.