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Check out this news story. I wonder how long the parents plan to keep it a secret

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookou ... nder-wraps
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The kid is obviously a boy but even so it's an interesting experiment. I studied my own three kids when they were young and I've studied my grandchildren to see whether gender orientation is innate.

My conclusion is that gender roles are born into them. Little girls naturally have a way of moving that is dainty and feminine. They gravitate entirely of their own accord toward things like dressing up, having play-play tea parties and playing with dolls. Even the most tom-boyish little girl does not throw herself around like little boys do.

Boys are competitive, play rough and like throwing and kicking balls around. Even when they are very young they like toys with wheels on.

What I have noticed is that some boys are curious about girls' stuff like clothes etc and may want to try on girls' clothes purely to see what the fuss is about. Once they have found out they lose interest.

All that is the norm. A boy who naturally gravitates toward girl things may possibly have a gender identity issue.
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Having 5 kids and 9 grand kids I would tend to agree with you. My daughter was a tom boy but when playing with other girls she was just as frilly as they were, the boys wanted to play with cars, army men, best toy ever was one that exploded when it hit something. They were the ones doing tricks on bikes, skate boards, etc. The grand kids are the same way. My granddaughter is the opposite of her mother, she was at 2 into cloths, even at that age everything had to match, she could care less what her brothers were doing or playing with she wanted her toys, girl toys only.

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Riverwind (imported) wrote: Thu May 26, 2011 7:06 am Having 5 kids and 9 grand kids I would tend to agree with you. My daughter was a tom boy but when playing with other girls she was just as frilly as they were, the boys wanted to play with cars, army men, best toy ever was one that exploded when it hit something. They were the ones doing tricks on bikes, skate boards, etc. The grand kids are the same way. My granddaughter is the opposite of her mother, she was at 2 into cloths, even at that age everything had to match, she could care less what her brothers were doing or playing with she wanted her toys, girl toys only.

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I loved my car that would fly apart after it hit a wall and then you put it back together and did it again. I used to love demolition derby. I still enjoy a no injury car accident. That might explain my driving technique.

I was always interested in boys toys that I could enjoy alone. Of course today my toys like a chemistry set are much more universal then when I was young. I was not allowed to have anything soft since I was very young when I had a stuffed horse. I was made to play with army men by my father and later rejected when I wanted to play with Army Men and Sailors and Marines.
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Most "boys" particularly if "soft" boys are not at all EVER to be permitted to play with "girl" toys" or even with girls at all. You'd get the belt! And then taken outside, given a glove and have a hard ball thrown at you with full speed for which you had better catch! And then be expected to be seen playing with a football every day form now on. And so on. -Forgot to mention about punishment for shedding just one tear drop.
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devi (imported) wrote: Thu May 26, 2011 8:31 am Most "boys" particularly if "soft" boys are not at all EVER to be permitted to play with "girl" toys" or even with girls at all. You'd get the belt! And then taken outside, given a glove and have a hard ball thrown at you with full speed for which you had better catch! And then be expected to be seen playing with a football every day form now on. And so on. -Forgot to mention about punishment for shedding just one tear drop.

I was one of those "soft" boys. I equally enjoyed playing with both boy's toys and girls toys. My best friends growing up were girls. My favorite games were playing house, and dress-up. Playing sports for me was absolute torture. I did not enjoy playing rough at all.

When I played with my GI-Joe toys, it was equal parts explosions and romance. At the time I grew up, there was both male and female GI-Joe toys. My army men had story lines where they were in love, and had families, and then had to fight to survive. I also had a Cabbage Patch Kid, and a trunk full of play clothes.

It was a very odd hybrid of both boy and girl styles of play. My parents were very conservative, but also very understanding about it. Other parents were not.

It was the parents of my friends that put a stop to my playing with girls. My friends parents were the ones that said I couldn't play with their daughters anymore. I was too old to have little girl friends, and it was weird. I wasn't allowed to come over anymore. It was devastating to lose my girl friends. I had a very difficult time after that making friends with boys. I just didn't know how to play with them. I was an adult before I had another male best friend.

There were a few boys I made friends with, but we always had to play what they wanted. My games were too boring, or girly.

I don't have a gender identity disorder. I've always thought of myself as male, but you couldn't have judged that by how I played. I was somewhere in-between.

Even with understanding and supportive parents, it is society that judges how a child must act and behave. Even with the best home environment, the rest of the world just cannot accept anything outside of the norm.
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I would have loved to have parents who were not gender focused. The worst of many beatings my dad ever gave me was when I was trying to help my sister open her little makeup kit. Dad walked in and saw the compact in my hand and the next thing I knew was fists of fury. My poor sister was trying to tell dad I was just helping but in his rage he could not hear her. Mom on the other hand ordered me a subscription to Sports Illustrated even though I had no interest in sports. She would offer to buy me dumbbells because she thought I wanted to look like the men on the packaging. Of course there were the frequent times I would be called sissy by her. At such a young age I knew I did not measure up to their standards.
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This action on the part of the parents is just silly and misgiuded. Their first job is not the service of some political ideology but the raising of a psychologically healthy child. This is just as bad as hippie parents in the 60's naming their children "Rainbow" or "Freedom," names the kids have had to live with until they change them at eighteen. Seriously people, I really hope you don't disagree on this one because children are profoundly affected by environment in the formative years.

"Storm" is a boy not a "he/she"!!!

Sexual identity crises are hard enough to handle for some young adults; they should not be implanted in the mind of a baby for fuck's sake! Social services needs to look into this family. These people are zealous fanatics who are obviously incompetent parents. The issues we discuss here can have nothing to do with little children!!
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Sometimes i thought that I should have been a girl but was not allowed to express any girl tendancies when I was growing up.
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