What's an Alpha Male To Do?

[Arab Nights (imported)]

she didn't see how, in a great port city, any "decent" lady could feel safe were "houses of ill repute" absent.

Transward

Not only in a great port city, but in Battle Mountain (BM for short, see http://www2.gbcnv.edu/howh/BattleMountain.html). Historically in Nevada people have looked at whore houses as a release for the boys, helping keep down crime, etc.

[A-1 (imported)]

A-1, you're still assuming that Arnold betrayed Maria somehow, but I think that is a huge stretch. I think she knew that he was a philanderer before they married, I'm sure they had an agreement that he would be free to play around after they were married, I'm sure she knew about this a long time ago, I'm sure she knows what he's actually like (i.e. steroid-fueled brute sexually), etc.

C'mon, S_D, Are you saying that he didn't? I'm sure that you have no idea what they had as an agreement. I'd think that the agreement would have been about money and not screwing around. NOBODY ever gets married with such a prenuptial agreement. I mean, what would be the point? This is ludicrous!

This whole thing is a typical pattern of the celebrity marriage, and is just an act on all their parts including hers. The only thing she might not like is his choice in who he cheated with, but do you really think that someone from a celebrity family (known for philandering) meeting up with a super-celeb party guy had any actual promise from him to be sexually faithful?

You are making suppositions about relationships that you have no knowledge about that undermines the ideas that created those very institutions we discuss. It is the reason why the institutions exist. This is revealing of your cynicism, but it does not make every relationship follow your concept of reality. There are more things between heaven and Earth, Horatio...

If he did actually betray her, then that is indeed bad. I just don't think there was any betrayal here (versus her expectations and his promises). I'm sure it still feels kind of shitty for her, but she has got more out of their marriage than most women get.

I think that her wealth was greater than his, as were her political connections. SO it is the opposite. He benefited more from the marriage than she did. It allowed him to shed the image of an immigrant despite the thick accent and it jump-started his political career.

You should read up more on the idea of "negotiating monogamy". There is a key point in this particular article (http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/1 ... -monogamy/) where they say humans are programmed for "serial monogamy", meaning that we pair up with expectation for monogamy for some period, but it is unnatural for that to be a lifelong arrangement.

No offense, but this is like a Liberal constantly watching Fox hoping to be converted. I may as well start attending Tea Party meetings. I will not be convinced by their propaganda regardless of how they present it.

Here's transcript of a recent Larry King on the subject as well:

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s ... r-marriage

OMG!

Larry King? Are you being serious?

[Arab Nights (imported)]

I was in my state's fair capital city yesterday. There was a billboard advertising a TV program about Maria Shriver's new life. Had her picture on the electronic billboard. It seems she is responding quickly to emerge well placed for her new career.

Good grief! Whatever happened to grieving? How many days, how many hours has it been since this became public?

[Riverwind (imported)]

Like a friend of mind said, they just grew apart, it happens. The real question is how their 4 kids accept the 5th one, after all they all have the same father. Note it is not his fault who his father is.

River

[KittenAB (imported)]

A-1 ... are you seriously going to try to say marriage is more than a living arrangement? I thought you were Democrat or liberal ... just makes me wonder if you even know what you are at this point.

[A-1 (imported)]

A-1 ... are you seriously going to try to say marriage is more than a living arrangement? I thought you were Democrat or liberal ... just makes me wonder if you even know what you are at this point.

Oh, I KNOW what I am...

...the REAL question is, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU?

[Riverwind (imported)]

Marriage is a commitment, when I got married I stopped smoking pot, it did not fit with family life. Its about shared sacrifice because you would rather be with that special person over anybody else. When you step out like Tiger and Arnold, you violate that trust and once that happens its hard to ever regain it. Alpha male or not, Marriage is for life, if you don't believe that then you should never marry. My marriage lasted 17 years, I never cheated on my wife or did she cheat on me, we simply grew apart instead of closer. I have been divorced over 20 years as I said, its for life, a one shot deal. If you can't make that kind of promise, you should not go there.

How is that for a right wing conservative view?

River the liberal.

[moi621 (imported)]

Several members of the Turk opposition were "busted" for unapproved heterosexual, sexual activity.

Strauss-Kahn is said to be the leader of the French opposition.

Coincidence or "set ups"?

I can just imagine Doonesbury character, Duke, running an enterprise of bringing down opposition by sexual disgrace, for a price.

Too much anti Alpha Male bigotry and intolerance.

Maybe we need a day of the year to honor Alpha Males.

Alpha Male Pride Parades and such. Sure seems like Alpha Males are taking a beating world wide.

Moi

Populist opposed to the feminization and wusification of my country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyBcHUe4WeQ

[transward (imported)]

Several members of the Turk opposition were "busted" for unapproved heterosexual, sexual activity.

Strauss-Kahn is said to be the leader of the French opposition.

Coincidence or "set ups"?

I can just imagine Doonesbury character, Duke, running an enterprise of bringing down opposition by sexual disgrace, for a price.

Too much anti Alpha Male bigotry and intolerance.

Maybe we need a day of the year to honor Alpha Males.

Alpha Male Pride Parades and such. Sure seems like Alpha Males are taking a beating world wide.

Moi

Populist opposed to the feminization and wusification of my country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyBcHUe4WeQ

The reason I so often can't stand Alpha Males is that so often they are total pricks. Of course that is also the reason they are so appealing (despite their jerkhood, I so often find myself thinking "I'd do him.")

It would appear that our society has similar ambivalent feelings.

Transward

[kizahakan (imported)]

Several members of the Turk opposition were "busted" for unapproved heterosexual, sexual activity.

Strauss-Kahn is said to be the leader of the French opposition.

We call here them the "Sex Casettes" all being delivered through an internet site, i guess now banned

6 members of the opposition party have been resigned due to those casettes just on the eve of the general elections that is going to be held at 12th of June...

We dont like those type of servings to the media and most probably it wont effect the votes too much...

best wishes

P.S: Moi tracks TR media better than I do