Short term Androcur.

[JessicaH (imported)]

Short term trials can EASILY turn into the beggining of transition. Almost every transitioning MTF that I know started like that and found there was no way in HELL they would give up the E and or let the T come back in your life.

Do yourself and your girlfriend a favor and figure out if you you are truely a transsexual NOW! It may hurt you both to deal with it now but I can promise you that it will only hurt you both 100X more if you fight it for 10 or 20 years then transition with a wife (or ex wife) and kids.

Good luck and I hope you find what you seek!

-Stacy

[KittenAB (imported)]

Except at the lowest levels of testosterone (which would differ for each person) getting an erection while sleeping is an obvious indicator of how they are sometimes suppressed by our conscious mind, but are physically possible, and work when we don't mentally prevent them.

Nature created sexual desire so overpowering because we would not do it if it were not so compelling and provided temporary satisfaction. The short term pleasure provided does not compensate for the misery and grief that people go through during our human lives. Animals don't have social constraints upon them. They seek and perform sexual activity completely in keeping with their natural instincts. Our natural instincts are to bunny hop, but our social constraints prevent that. This leads to so many negative issues I won't even start listing them here.

Anyone who chooses to live a life without sexual desire or ability, some say are not doing right. But nature gave us a mind and our mind is part of our nature, so how can it be unnatural to make a conscious decision to live without sex. Maybe its nature's way of trying to help restrain overpopulation. Choosing an asexual life today (even castration - but before) is an option since sperm can be acquired directly from the testes even without ejaculation and stored and used later. One need not have sex to reproduce. Religion's claim that MF marriage is vital to populate the planet just doesn't seem very realistic with 7 billion people polluting the planet and depleting the planet's natural resources and causing extinction and other problems; those issues make same sex marriage, living life without sex, and even castration, seem like sacrifices to help save the planet. Such people should be revered, not lambasted. At least I think so, since I am one of them. Never had any interest in being feminine, just a neutered male; should have been born a male dog.

Um ... no. I won't address the political parts, but the nature making it overwhelming, that's not true.

For one, there are many humans who have almost no sex drive, but are still capable of performing. Also, nocturnal erections are not a sexual function at all, they are a function of "flexing" actually, a way the body maintains the elasticity of the skin in that organ as a natural precaution developed just in case the being does not do it on their own. It is a precaution from our primate ancestry, since the males of the primitive species were not always guaranteed sexual activity in the wild. You cannot stop nocturnal erections, even those who are unable to achieve erections for sexual activity will get them.

Sex drive could be related to the population level, however it's more likely because of local population levels not global. Dense populations in the wild have often shown to cause various sexual effects for some species, there is a "breaking point" for all species. The decrease in sex drive is likely a result of us living in dense city centers instead of spreading out like we were designed to live, however there is also those who choose to be rid of their sex drive and that's perfectly natural for any species with the ability to override the natural instincts such as with humans.

[KittenAB (imported)]

Well my doctor isn't a "quack," rather he deals with people with gender disorders. He is not religious (as far as I know), but pretty much just deals with guys who have gender disorders, most of which are gay. So he sort of struggles to see why I am looking down this road - he thinks that my complaints about men being obsessed about sex and feeling guilty about wanting sex from women is just what all men have to face with being a man. As far as I can tell, no 'ordinary' doctor in Australia would even remotely consider chemical castration for me.

I get on fairly well with my doctor by the way, despite the bit of a brick wall that I'm facing.

I've sort of gotten to a stage in my life where I sort of don't care anymore. What I mean is that I just don't feel guilt like I used to. In that sense, I am totally free (and actually quite keen, lol) to just want (and be willing) to fuck any remotely hot women - and I never used to be like this. Like, I could even marry, and if I wasn't getting any then I'd just go to a brothel and not feel the least bit of remorse. Maybe that is because I am wanting my sex drive removed, but am not have the opportunity to do so? I've actually become a real bastard in a way, but still I don't really care. This probably sounds funny (and I'm actually pretty happy in some ways too, I am sort of in love and feel quite free), though it's sort of where I'm at at the moment.

I think that physically I have become more addicted to sex lately (and mentally in the sense that I've freed myself of principles/guilt), but my thoughts on still wanting to try out proper chemical castration have become even stronger. Sex is just sex. It's not life, so it shouldn't be. For the most part men have to pay too much for their sex drives (there are only so many men who can be porn/football/movie stars, lol). I'm thinking of going to a brothel again tomorrow night! I am in a current relationship, but I consider it far more cheating to say, interact with another girl that I LOVE. Sex for men is pretty much JUST physical. For women it's emotional - which is why a woman can REALLY enjoy sex, but still go without it.

That was an unexpected ramble! Enough of that....for now.

LOL It's okay. I was a bit too tired at the time of that post to get much substance so I sort of expected that. Switching doctors would just mean starting over and probably ending up in the same position anyway, but your doctor does sound a bit set in his own mindset, thinking that the same rules apply to everyone. This is a big problem across the globe though.

About the women, don't let the media fool you, for them it's physical as well. The emotional myth was formed a long time ago to try to justify marriage. For about 7 years I lived with over 100 women in a women's shelter .... most never realised I was TG so they spoke openly around me (but not around the other TGs in the shelters though) and believe me, there is almost no difference in their views. Having lived in such a situation has given me a very unique perspective on the gender differences, and destroyed all illusion that the media and society has created about these differences. While many women pretend that it's different, there really isn't.

[vickitransgirl (imported)]

Thankyou so much for all the info. The most useful to me personally is from Stacy. I hear you..... and will be making some effort to find out.

[nullorchis (imported)]

Short term trials can EASILY turn into the beggining of transition. Almost every transitioning MTF that I know started like that and found there was no way in HELL they would give up the E and or let the T come back in your life.

Do yourself and your girlfriend a favor and figure out if you you are truely a transsexual NOW! It may hurt you both to deal with it now but I can promise you that it will only hurt you both 100X more if you fight it for 10 or 20 years then transition with a wife (or ex wife) and kids.

Good luck and I hope you find what you seek!

-Stacy

As one who has never been interested in M->F for myself I never tested or experimented with E so I have no idea what my level is or what might happen if I tinker with that.

Since puberty I craved to be castrated. No idea why. Of course back then, pre-internet, pre-information age, I did not know once castrated I would loose my sex drive. I just wanted to be horney, hot but not hung. In any event, to make a long story short (no I did not and do not want to remove my penis), for me, once I experimented with lowering T level, I was anxious to permanently eliminate it, and once eliminated I no longer have this craving and obsession with wanting to be castrated (though if opportunity knocks I will answer the door and have it done).

We are all unique, thankfully.

[FinallyFreeNasexual (imported)]

Sex for men is pretty much JUST physical. For women it's emotional - which is why a woman can REALLY enjoy sex, but still go without it..

That is what i wanted. I transitioned to be able to get excited by a feeling of love / emotion, not from testes that made my life oversexed and hell. Yes i can have orgasm but i choose not too unless i find a woman for real love. Thats not an easy find but i also no longer suffer what many men suffer. i am finally free n asexual.

I love it and now life is as i choose not as my body controls me. I control my body with my mind.

Its been a great two decades understanding how the other side lives. Now i am basically a eunuch and dressing male because i didn't like how men sought me as a woman. Yes i looked good maybe too good and that is not what i wanted. However, i got a chance to know what women feel when being lusted over by oversexed males. I use to be a letch. I disliked myself. I had to masturbate a couple times to be able to go on a regular date. Yes DR's need to help males with over sexed drives but some of us had to change genders to find this out. I do not regret it at all.

[Riven (imported)]

In my experience, the affects of Androcur (Cyproterone Acetate) wear off slowly and I reckon it takes about 3 months to fully recover. You could try taking it during your first week away only. I think you'll find your libido will continue to reduce, and by the second or third week you'll be pretty much impotent. But as your testosterone starts to recover you might suffer mood swings (I lost my temper very easily at that point). You'll probably be feeling more your usual self by the time you return home, however, I don't think you'll achieve your normal sexual function by then.