1 month check up. Androcur working great.

[unencumbered (imported)]

Hoosierdad, I have to give credit to you and people like frankwilder who are trying to go through proper medical channels to reduce your libido. You have courage and my respect.

When my wife and I agreed to reduce mine, she said to speak with our family doctor about getting something for it. This is the same guy who my family (myself , my wife and my kids) have known for some 25 years. I wasn't about to talk with him about it. Several years ago, I had mentioned to him about an article that I had read about taking some drug to protect my prostate and his reply was that it would reduce my libido, as though it was the worse thing that could happen to me. So, after reading others experiences here, I reduced my libido by myself. I'm glad that I did it but its too bad that most doctors have the same mindset as mine does.

[loveableleopardy (imported)]

Finding a Doc to work with me was quite a challenge. I started the discussion with my wife in Sept. 2010. We talked with her Gynecologist due to the fact she knew of our sexual difficulties and had been working with my wife for several years to see if there was anything she could do. She thought lowering my Testosterone levels was a great idea and said she would give her 2 cents worth to my doc if necessary. I then contacted my Urologist and discussed my sexual problems with him. He thought Chemical Castration was a bad idea due to the fact the drugs he is used to working with have very bad side effects. I advised him there are other drugs like Androcur out there that can be taken in low doses and still get the desired effect. He said he would look into the other Meds and keep me posted. He also gave me some samples of Avodart and said take these for 1 month and see what results you get.

In the meanwhile my wife and I met with a Sexual Therapist and we talked about lowering my Libido to match my wife's. She was familiar with Chem Castration but only in men with Deviant Sexual problems. She had never worked with anyone that would take the drug voluntarily to just lower their Libido. She thought it might work, but she would not prescribe the meds either, She recommended talking to my General Practitioner and see what he said.

So at my annual physical I mentioned to my doc my problems with my Libido and that I wanted to lower my Testosterone. He practically laughed out loud and said no way would lowering my T levels make my sex life better. (the joke is on him, he's not my doc anymore and I won't recommend his practice)

A couple of months had passed since I brought the subject up with my wife and she was beginning to wonder if anyone wanted to help us. My Urologist finally called me back after I sent him the info on Androcur and requested he research it as he had promised. He finally agreed to talk to me and he began by stating the drugs have very nasty side effects. He asked me how the Avodart was working. After being on it for 2 months, my occurrence of erections was diminished but not my Libido. After a lengthy talk he finally agreed to give me the script and order blood tests to help monitor my Liver function, standard blood work as well as T levels. I began taking Androcur the first week of January. The rest as they say is history.

My personal opinion is that male docs can not understand how a man would want to lower their T levels. They are usually prescribing meds to help men get erections so they can have more sex not less. I feel the 2 female docs I spoke with were far more understanding and I would try to find a female doc over a male doc any day of the week.

Good luck, be persistent, and bring copies of all the info you can gather about the meds you want to be on when you meet with you doc.

Thank you for sharing this experience. I found it very interesting reading.

The point about male doctors being very discouraging of the idea/desire to reduce sex drive has quickly been backed up by nonamesplease. I do not think that this pattern has got anything to do with male DOCTORS though, as it is just a male thing in general. It is perhaps what I most fear about being totally open with the world (I would like to be somehow totally open with the world, but not with those who are involved in my daily existence such as family and work comrades - dig me a hole please!). Others, and especially men just cannot understand how a guy could want to reduce his sex drive, because THEY see this as THEIR main life driving force. But we actually see and recognise the very same thing and want to change it partly BECAUSE it is our main life driving force - possibly. I am just rambling with this, but believe it to be relatively accurate.

It is hard for me to even fully understand myself as to just how I actually came around to considering the idea of lowering my sex drive as being a positive and commonsense one, but what I do know is that I had to come around to that idea/understanding by myself. At anytime before I was ready, if someone had spoken such ideas to me I probably would have thought them to be just depressed or something. I'm not sure that any guy can be made by us to properly understand any reasons for why we might want to head down this road (not even in some cases very well educated and well rounded people like doctors). As a guy, this (wanting to remove your sex drive) can be understandably a very difficult thing to get your head around.

As for my limited experiences with doctors, the GP that I saw was actually the first time that I'd seen him - when I went in and somehow spoke with confidence and determination about removing my sex drive (at that point I was hell bent on doing it and never having sex). He couldn't understand it, but he never laughed or anything - he was quite good about the whole thing. And even my sex/gender therapist doesn't really agree with my interest, but he listens to me and treats me with respect, so I think that my experiences so far with male doctors have been better than others. I also saw another male sex/gender therapist who was interested in my ideas and desires while at the same time questioned them, and questioning these sorts of things is a good thing.

[mlooking2 (imported)]

Does anyone here know if Cyproterone Acetate can give you blood clots ? I was on a low dose for 6 months and got many clots in my leg. I've since stopped the drug and now on warfarin blood thiner.

[mlooking2 (imported)]

My GF says it would hurt to start up intercourse again she stopped over 10 years ago. I have been dating her for 1 year and still no intercourse. She is 60 I'm 55. My GF is slim and very pretty. I have a hard time understanding why she don't like intimacy because I've dated much older women than her and they couldn't wait to get in my pants.

Everyone is different I know. She don't say why she don't want intimacy other than saying she needs to get used to it again . But I feel undesired. I want to be desired and feel sex. Her not wanting intercourse with me makes me feel ugly and unloved. But I do love her. Others say find a GF that can make love to me. But I do love this women and she does show her love for me in so many other ways. Just not in the way I would like. I get the feeling she never really liked sex even when she was younger.

But she get kinky with me ,Spankings, hand jobs, .Its just forplay to me and never go's beyound that. Somewhat of a cock tease.

[hoosierdad (imported)]

Does anyone here know if Cyproterone Acetate can give you blood clots ? I was on a low dose for 6 months and got many clots in my leg. I've since stopped the drug and now on warfarin blood thiner.

From Wikipedia:

Used alone, cyproterone acetate does not appear to have a significant effect on blood clotting factors, but in combination with ethinylestradiol (as in combined oral contraceptive pills) presents an increased risk of deep vein thrombosis.

That's all I could find, no other mentions of blood clots. I do know there are many other meds out there that can cause blood clots, talk to your Doctor if you are concerned.

[guy26 (imported)]

I have actually had a great response thus far with my therapist and general practitioner. I am waiting for my pharmacist to contact the manufacture of leuprolide acetate, a GnRH agonist, and get it in before I start a trial to lower my testosterone to a comfortable level.

I would imagine the bigger problem is directly approaching a general practitioner in a 10-15 minute session with a desire to lower your testosterone levels. There is all kinds of opportunity for misunderstanding in such a short time frame. Even for someone wanting to transition from male to female, I highly doubt a general practitioner would start prescribing hormones without having your consult with a therapist first. I worked with a therapist for about 6 months before we even started to talk about medication and working with my general practitioner.

I have written extensively about my experience on the archive. Feel free to read through it or ask me anything.

I have been enjoying reading this thread for a while now.