Babylon 5

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moi621 (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:19 pm How about the truth in a vision that Bab 5 would suffer an explosive, firey demise.

G'Kar said that every race had some form of sweddish meatballs (that is meatballs in gravy)... Funny, I never wanted to ask about the source of the meat.

On Moi's point, never trust a seer. Never trust a "vision" of the future. Only trust a "vision" of the past.

As I recall, there is a battle around the B5 station that is thwarted by some strange circumstance and the station wasn't destroyed. That would have fit the vision that Londo Molari feared. I don't remember the episodes.
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Riverwind (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:05 pm It really did set a standard that all others fail to follow.

I was thinking about it today and thought who was my favorite person in the series. I decided I needed three.

G'Kar, Vir, Lyta, Ivanova and Garibaldi.

Oops, that's five.

Damn, I hate it when that happens.

River

No worries River, It's a sign of OLD age.

My favorites were Vir, G'kar, Londo, Garibaldi and the lovable Mr. Bester of the Psi Corps :)
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Babylon 5 is Star Trek for grown-ups. Seriously.

Any B5 fans that have never looked at The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5 http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/ should do so *immediately*!!!

J. Michael Straczynski - JMS, as he's known and revered on the net - didn't just create a 'sci-fi' series; it's a political thriller, a story of many different people and not only their lives on the station, but the nuances and *depth* of their various characters!

From JMS's 5-year Overview: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/universe/ ... rview.html

There has always been a plan for a series to follow. If anything, that was the point of the entire exercise...to tell a story. To create a novel for TV that would span five years, for which the pilot is the opening chapter. Having now seen, or about to see the foundation for that story, and before being asked to lend support to that series, you have a right to some sense of what that series would entail, and what you're being asked to support. One should never sign a blank check on the bank of one's conscience. So here's a preview.

You will find out what happened to Sinclair, for starters, during the Earth/Minbari war. For nearly 10 years, Sinclair has worked to convince himself that nothing happened to him on the Line other than what seems to be the case: that he blacked out for 24 hours. He's just managed to convince himself of this. Now, suddenly, someone comes into his life and with seven words -- you'll know them when you hear them -- completely unravels the self-deception. He knows then that something DID happen to him, that someone DID mess with his mind...and he is going to find out who, and why.

The ramifications of that discovery will have a major influence on the series, on his relationships, and the future of not only his character but many others.

You will see what a Vorlon is...and what it represents. And what it may have to do with our own saga, and a hidden relationship to some of our other characters (watch the reception scene carefully). We'll discover that there are MANY players in this game. You'll find out what happened to Babylon 4, and it will call into question what is real, what is not, and the ending of that episode is one that you have not seen before on television.

We'll find that most every major character is running to, or away from something in their hearts, or their pasts, or their careers. Garibaldi's checkered past will catch up with him in a way that will affect his role and make him a very different character for as much as a full season, and have lasting effects thereafter. Lyta will take part in a voyage of discovery that will very much change her character. She will be caught up in a web of intrigue and forced to betray the very people she has come to care for.

We will see wheels within wheels, discover the secret groups behind the Earth and Minbari governments who suspect, with good reason, that one of the B5 crew may be a traitor, who sold out Earth during the Earth/Minbari war.

Some of the established empires in the pilot will fall. Some will rise unexpectedly. Hopes and fortunes will be alternately made or destroyed. At least one major race not yet known even to EXIST will make its presence known, but only gradually. Some characters will fall from grace. Others will make bargains whose full price they do not understand, but will eventually come to realize, and regret.

At the end of the first season, one character will undergo a MAJOR change, which will start the show spinning on a very different axis. The first season will have some fairly conventional stories, but others will start the show gradually moving toward where I want it to go. One has to set these things up gradually. Events in the story -- which is very much the story of Jeffrey Sinclair -- will speed up in each subsequent season.

Someone he considers a friend will betray him. Another will prove to be the exact opposite of what Sinclair believes to be true. Some will live. Some will die. He will be put through a crucible of terrible force, that will change him, and alter his destiny in a profound and terrible way...if he goes one way, or the other, it will determine not only his own fate, but that of millions of others. He will grow, and become stronger, better, wiser...or be destroyed by what fate is bringing his way. In sum, it is a story of hope against terrible adversity and overwhelming odds.

Each of our characters will be tempted in a different way to ally with a dark force determined to once and for all destroy the peace. Some will fall prey to the temptation, others will not, and pay the price for their resistance.

The homeworld of one of our major characters will be decimated. War will become inevitable. And when it comes, Babylon 5 will be forever changed.

That, in broad brush strokes, is a little of what I plan to do with the series. It is, as stated, a novel for television, with a definite beginning, middle and end.

Sheer brilliance!!! :)

-YPA
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How about Brown Sector for some cheap quarters.

And Vir likes the food there just to get sick on it and scolded by Molari that Centari cannot digest such stuff, Vir says - "But it taste so good".

If I remember correctly they were taking a jab at MacDonalds.

Brown Sector the level to go for intrigue, homeless, illegal aliens, crime syndicates.

Any memories of Brown Sector to share?

Moi

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Good review above, Thanks.
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MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:48 pm No worries River, It's a sign of OLD age.

I know, I know, old age is a bitch sometimes. 😄 And sometimes its wonderful. :D

River
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this is a little off the topic of b5 but i figured someone here might appreciate it. does anyone here like batman, superman, wonderwoman.....and superheroes of the like. i stumbled across something yesterday that i thought was totally awsome. there is like an 8 minute video on the home page of dc universe online ( a ps3 game that aparently comes out tomorrow ) that was just so cool i had to tell someone about it. now im not getting the game nor do you need an interest in gaming to enjoy this video. but if anyone here has ever liked super heroes you may wanna give this a look. just type dc universe online into google and it'll take you to the home page. im interested to see if anyone thinks this is as cool as i did
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Always have been a fan of Superman and Batman. For that matter all super hero's.

River
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kyennamo (imported) wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:08 am this is a little off the topic of b5 but i figured someone here might appreciate it. does anyone here like batman, superman, wonderwoman.....and superheroes of the like. i stumbled across something yesterday that i thought was totally awsome. there is like an 8 minute video on the home page of dc universe online ( a ps3 game that aparently comes out tomorrow ) that was just so cool i had to tell someone about it. now im not getting the game nor do you need an interest in gaming to enjoy this video. but if anyone here has ever liked super heroes you may wanna give this a look. just type dc universe online into google and it'll take you to the home page. im interested to see if anyone thinks this is as cool as i did

I've played the game. (Was one of the beta team) I quite liked it, actually. A very different combat system from that other major MMO. Definitely worth a play for anyone who's into superheroes/villains.
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Riverwind (imported) wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:29 pm Always have been a fan of Superman and Batman. For that matter all super hero's.

River

There's a greast song about super heroes by Stephen Lynch.
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kyennamo (imported) wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:08 am this is a little off the topic of b5 but i figured someone here might appreciate it. does anyone here like batman, superman, wonderwoman.....and superheroes of the like...

Not so off topic. I read about superheroes and watch the TV programs and movies that they inspire but Babylon 5 was unique in science fiction in that an ensemble cast got the full character treatment and the plot line of the characters extended five years. It is the story of the people on the Babylon Five station for five years with forward and backward references to future and history.

Now before you tell me that Star Trek had an ensemble cast, it did not have a coherent plotline for more than one year at a time. It was not one story from beginning to end. That's not a criticism.

The difference is like comparing The Chronicles of Narnia with the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. One is a single story, the other is a collection of episodes.
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