testicle atrophy & Orchiectomy

[nullorchis (imported)]

Sounds like a viable option.

Take Siterone (etc) to lower T to near castrate level.

After a year, complain of low T symptoms to Dr.

Get a T test.

Upon diagnosis of low T, have Dr. prescribe Androgel (etc)

Take HRT for a few years, resulting in a shutdown of testes.

Stop taking HRT to live a near eunuch life with low T. (now that balls are hard, small, maybe even dead)

With luck, maybe even need medical castration.

As desired take just enough HRT for good mental and physical health, but not too much to wake the sleeping dragon.

Results may vary, but seems worth a try to get around the system.

[Caith721 (imported)]

Or, you could take finasteride (propecia, proscar) for a few months, stop immediately, and hope for post-finasteride syndrome (http://mypropeciasideeffects.com/my-pro ... ptoms.html).

[fhunter]

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nd hope for post-finasteride syndrome (http://mypropeciasideeffects.com/my-pro ... ptoms.html).

Very interesting read, thanks. Strangely, some symptoms described look like my experience with stopping androcur.

[Caith721 (imported)]

Apparently, this syndrome affects only a certain percentage of the male population with a certain pattern of CAG triplet repeats in their DNA which code for the androgen receptor sites throughout the body. If I thought it would work for me, I'd be on it in a hurry.

[erikboy (imported)]

Or, you could take finasteride (propecia, proscar) for a few months, stop immediately, and hope for post-finasteride syndrome (http://mypropeciasideeffects.com/my-pro ... ptoms.html).

Thanx for sharing interesting link!

This leads me to thinking that good old surgical orchietomy is a safest way to get what many of us here want. Later it is possble to adjust hormonal levels if needed.

It appears that chemical castration could potentially be worse than orchiectomy, as T could be replaced while T receptors can't be replaced.

So, this is not as safe as thought.

[gjvr2001 (imported)]

It looks like I'm a new member of the Eunuch clan as I had my testosterone level checked a few weeks ago. It was 32. My urologist said he had never seen such a low level. I have had a very diminished libido for several years but I personally would rather have a normal level. I just started TRT with Testim 5 mg 3 days ago and still have noticed no increase in libido. I personally think the "eunuch calm " is not that great. I would love to be able to have the sex drive I had in the past. I guess that my mind is not wanting to be a Eunuch but I guess that's no longer an option. Please be careful and very sure before you continue to do irreversible harm to your testis. Has anyone ever had experience with trying to get back to normal Testosterone levels by using Testim and if so, how long did it take to get the T levels back to a functional range above 300?

[kristoff]

It looks like I'm a new member of the Eunuch clan as I had my testosterone level checked a few weeks ago. It was 32. My urologist said he had never seen such a low level. I have had a very diminished libido for several years but I personally would rather have a normal level. I just started TRT with Testim 5 mg 3 days ago and still have noticed no increase in libido. I personally think the "eunuch calm " is not that great. I would love to be able to have the sex drive I had in the past. I guess that my mind is not wanting to be a Eunuch but I guess that's no longer an option. Please be careful and very sure before you continue to do irreversible harm to your testis. Has anyone ever had experience with trying to get back to normal Testosterone levels by using Testim and if so, how long did it take to get the T levels back to a functional range above 300?

It may well take you several weeks to get to the point where you are able to experience a libido. Even then, it isnt the same, tends not to be as strong, and for me, fades over time. My T level typically ranges around 500 ng/dl.

[nullorchis (imported)]

It looks like I'm a new member of the Eunuch clan as I had my testosterone level checked a few weeks ago. It was 32. My urologist said he had never seen such a low level. I have had a very diminished libido for several years but I personally would rather have a normal level. I just started TRT with Testim 5 mg 3 days ago and still have noticed no increase in libido. I personally think the "eunuch calm " is not that great. I would love to be able to have the sex drive I had in the past. I guess that my mind is not wanting to be a Eunuch but I guess that's no longer an option. Please be careful and very sure before you continue to do irreversible harm to your testis. Has anyone ever had experience with trying to get back to normal Testosterone levels by using Testim and if so, how long did it take to get the T levels back to a functional range above 300?

My experience is that a doctor will wait 90 days after you start HRT (TRT) before another T test is run. There are different kinds of tests. (check out on the internet). Total T is main indicator. You may never experience same kind of sex drive you had in the past. The testicles consume cholesterol and produce DHT on demand, as needed, in response to the levels of other hormones in the body. With gels you are dosing up on T in the morning so you have strength and stability throughout the day. With balls your T level would build up during the night as you are at rest, and be nice and high for a morning sexual romp, or to carry you through the day. Without balls your T level will be lowest in the morning since you have no natural production throughout the night.

Applying gel throughout the day, or in the evening, would undoubtedly produce different results, which would most likely be different in everyone, and would be something you would have to experiment with to see if it provided you with the unique results you seeking. We all want unique results and respond differently to the same medications or routines, so each of us must proceed with our own methods, with caution.

[Hash (imported)]

Yes, it will take some time for your body to readjust to the introduction of testosterone back into your system. However, sometimes the body doesn't adjust and in some eunuchs there's a resistance to testosterone. I've stated before that I've maintained a low level of HRT (testosterone therapy). I've used a low dose regimen of compounded testosterone for years, my testosterone levels are on average between 120-180, now if I try to increase the amount to boost my testosterone, my body reacts negatively. Instead of testosterone increasing, my body increases my estrogen production, my tiny libido decreases, my small penis shrinks up even more, and I begin to feel strange tingling all over. My urologist theorizes that this is a result of my low dose regimen, which my body has accepted now as normal. It's stabilized at this low amount. Increasing the "t" causes a negative reaction because it's not accustomed to it. It has something to do with aromatase. If I stop using compounded testosterone all together for several weeks or months, my body might reject any additional testosterone and I'd feminize even more. Right now I'm comfortable with where I'm at, but I know my higher estrogen levels have changed the way I am and think. I also suspect estrogen is pushing me to have my penis removed. I hope for your sake, GJVR, that things work in your favor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromatase

http://www.naturodoc.com/library/hormones/masculine.htm

[gjvr2001 (imported)]

Thank you for your help. I was wondering if all the high blood pressure and cholesterol meds I've been taking could be part of the reason of the drop in T or possibly a temperature of 107 degrees I suffered a couple of years ago.