Couple of naive questions about MtF transsexuals

[PheonixStar (imported)]

Whether the transsexual will still have orgasms and shoot jism, will depend on what variety of hormones she is using. If the hormones are man-made, her male parts will gradually shrink and become quite small, resulting in a loss of erectile functions, loss of seminal production, and loss of the more normal male type drive. On the other hand, using natural hormones, all of the above can be lessened, until the body has developed into a more fully functional woman's body, allowing for the fact that she doesn't have the slit and vaginal opening.

And for the most part, the larger a set of breasts appear, especially in the porn industry, is usually because the transsexual desires larger, fuller breasts, so she opts for silicone injections; which usually begin somewhere around the "C-cup" size. Personally, I would never use silicone, as from using natural hormones, my own breasts are fuller and have become milk producers.

[Buddy666 (imported)]

Hmm by your definition, a trans man who hasn't transitioned to look masculine would end up being called a girl too. Personally I just go by what one's gender is really, regardless of how they look.

Of course reality is slightly more complicated, nontheless, it is a good basic rule to go by.

That was not my intention, perhaps you were thinking of what gender one would present as nude, and I meant what gender a person presents themselves as, or rather what gender a person appears to be when not exposing themselves. Gender labels are overrated, but useful for when you wish to identify what you want or who you wish to be. Myself, I prefer the female form, whether or not it belongs to a genetic male or female. Of course I can't overlook the many other genders, like hermaphrodite or nullo and everywhere in-between.

[punkypink (imported)]

That was not my intention, perhaps you were thinking of what gender one would present as nude, and I meant what gender a person presents themselves as, or rather what gender a person appears to be when not exposing themselves. Gender labels are overrated, but useful for when you wish to identify what you want or who you wish to be. Myself, I prefer the female form, whether or not it belongs to a genetic male or female. Of course I can't overlook the many other genders, like hermaphrodite or nullo and everywhere in-between.

As Yoda once said, luminous beings we are, not this crude matter. I'll prefer to see past the physical. Everything else is just shallow. Sure, I have a preference too, but that will not take precedence over hurting others over superficiality.

Not sure what you mean when you use gender though. This is one area not properly defined enough. As I understand it in psychology, they use sex to refer to the physical, and gender to the psychological. Could you clarify so I could properly understand the gist of your above post?

[Buddy666 (imported)]

As Yoda once said, luminous beings we are, not this crude matter. I'll prefer to see past the physical. Everything else is just shallow. Sure, I have a preference too, but that will not take precedence over hurting others over superficiality.

Not sure what you mean when you use gender though. This is one area not properly defined enough. As I understand it in psychology, they use sex to refer to the physical, and gender to the psychological. Could you clarify so I could properly understand the gist of your above post?

I think we are both on the same page, although unfortunately we got off on the wrong foot. We may also have been caught up in the terminology differences between the US and UK. I may also be coming across a bit harsh since in the US we do have the bad habit of speaking first and thinking later, and in print you may not be able to extract the intent of my posts. If I sound like I objectify others sexually, that is because I do. I don't think there's any harm in flirting with someone I find attractive, and I already have a wife, so I'm not looking for a life partner, just fun and friends and sometimes, swinging fun. (With full disclosure of course.)

Before I started to get off track, I was trying to express that all women are beautiful, regardless of what they have inside their panties. (Wait I just assumed women wear panties, at least every one I dated did.) I was trying to make it clear that "gender identity" (what gender you identify yourself as) is the key factor for determining womanhood. A woman defines herself with how she presents to the world regardless of what she was born as, things like pride and confidence and class.

I hope this clears everything up, and I <3 the Yoda quote.

(And I still think you are pretty.)

Buddy.

[punkypink (imported)]

I think we are both on the same page, although unfortunately we got off on the wrong foot. We may also have been caught up in the terminology differences between the US and UK. I may also be coming across a bit harsh since in the US we do have the bad habit of speaking first and thinking later, and in print you may not be able to extract the intent of my posts. If I sound like I objectify others sexually, that is because I do. I don't think there's any harm in flirting with someone I find attractive, and I already have a wife, so I'm not looking for a life partner, just fun and friends and sometimes, swinging fun. (With full disclosure of course.)

Before I started to get off track, I was trying to express that all women are beautiful, regardless of what they have inside their panties. (Wait I just assumed women wear panties, at least every one I dated did.) I was trying to make it clear that "gender identity" (what gender you identify yourself as) is the key factor for determining womanhood. A woman defines herself with how she presents to the world regardless of what she was born as, things like pride and confidence and class.

I hope this clears everything up, and I <3 the Yoda quote.

(And I still think you are pretty.)

Buddy.

Glad I tried to clarify then. I am aware the misunderstanding of the use of terminology by others is the biggest stumbling block to most discussions about the topic. Often hard to get any meaningful dialogue when 2 people don't realise what each other are actually talking about.

[Caith721 (imported)]

I was trying to express that all women are beautiful, regardless of what they have inside their panties.

A woman defines herself with how she presents to the world regardless of what she was born as, things like pride and confidence and class.

Quoted for truth.

[Buddy666 (imported)]

Your quotes and comments have brought me joy. Thank you, and I hope you all had a great holiday. That of course applies to those of us with or without genitals whether male or female or in-between.

[punkypink (imported)]

Your quotes and comments have brought me joy. Thank you, and I hope you all had a great holiday. That of course applies to those of us with or without genitals whether male or female or in-between.

great anything wont be happening for me anytime soon. people in my uni've been giving me a hard time for being trans.

[Caith721 (imported)]

great anything wont be happening for me anytime soon. people in my uni've been giving me a hard time for being trans.

Fuck 'em. They're narrow-minded arses who can't handle reality. I've considered you a woman since first reading your posts here, many months ago. You're a woman, you know it, and they'll need to accept and appreciate it, sooner or later.

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

I throw in with what Caith721 says: Fuck 'em, you're better than that. --FLO--