"Does your dog bark?"

[Splitz (imported)]

A curious thing happened to me a few days ago. I was visiting a client at their home, for the first time. I had been there for two hours and on leaving the premises met the family's pet dog. My client warned me that the dog barks. When the dog DIDN'T bark at me, she said "That's interesting, she (or he?) usually barks at men." My feeling is that I might be giving off a different body odour to that of "complete" men. (I still have testicles, but they are pretty much, if not completely, dead now. I think of myself as most likely being a eunuch.) Has anyone experienced anything similar to this or has anyone any theories on why this happened? Maybe it was just coincidental? Was the dog confused?

Happy for any input.

splitz

[transward (imported)]

A curious thing happened to me a few days ago. I was visiting a client at their home, for the first time. I had been there for two hours and on leaving the premises met the family's pet dog. My client warned me that the dog barks. When the dog DIDN'T bark at me, she said "That's interesting, she (or he?) usually barks at men." My feeling is that I might be giving off a different body odour to that of "complete" men. (I still have testicles, but they are pretty much, if not completely, dead now. I think of myself as most likely being a eunuch.) Has anyone experienced anything similar to this or has anyone any theories on why this happened? Maybe it was just coincidental? Was the dog confused?

Happy for any input.

splitz

Dog was probably not confused, at least about that. One of the first things that trans girls report on going on hormones, often after just starting on T blockers, is that their body odor changes. Consider the changes in body odor of teenage boys when they hit puberty. Losing T is the same thing in reverse.

Transward

[tugon (imported)]

I was delivering wedding photos I had taken to a couple and they asked if I wanted to see their race car. No but to be polite I said yes. They warned me about the guard dog but as long as I was with them I was safe. We entered the yard surrounded by a tall chain link fence. As we walked to the garage this dog walks over and starts nuzzling my hand. I pet it and rub it's ears. I asked the family where the guard dog was and noticed the odd expression on their faces. The groom said "you must be good people". I asked why and was told the dog I was playing with was the vicious guard dog.

I have also found being a eunuch somehow makes me less threatening to the clients in my care. Women are very comfortable with my helping them with all levels of care. Men relax quickly around me and accept care without any problem. Confused and memory challenged people do not strike out and this will surprise families.

Dogs, the elderly and small children like me. People my age are not as fond.

[Riverwind (imported)]

Maybe that's why my little dog liked me right off, she is a rescue and I was the third person they had taken her to. This MOM will be her first, I got her the week after the last one. She is a little barking machine, RAT TERROR, yes I spelled it right, my cat is 11lbs, she is 7lbs, the Cat is the boss.

River

[Splitz (imported)]

Dog was probably not confused, at least about that. One of the first things that trans girls report on going on hormones, often after just starting on T blockers, is that their body odor changes. Consider the changes in body odor of teenage boys when they hit puberty. Losing T is the same thing in reverse.

Transward

Hi transward,

Yes, I guess you are right. I suppose that with the lack (or reduction) of male hormones, I smell more like a female now maybe? I haven't especially noticed a change in my body odour, but then maybe I wouldn't.

Thank you all for your input and stories - much appreciated.

splitz

[transward (imported)]

Hi transward,

Yes, I guess you are right. I suppose that with the lack (or reduction) of male hormones, I smell more like a female now maybe? I haven't especially noticed a change in my body odour, but then maybe I wouldn't.

splitz

Unless you are taking estrogen I suspect you smell more juvenile or eunuchoid rather than female. As a cook, I live by my sense of taste, which is about 60% sense of smell, (so if I am the bitch I am sometimes accused of being, I am probably a bloodhound), but I can usually tell men from women from children with my eyes closed. Tests have shown that most people can do the same if they pay attention to their noses. Reasonably clean boys and girls are hard to tell apart before puberty. But at puberty body odor diverge into distinct male and female types.

Transward

[Splitz (imported)]

Unless you are taking estrogen I suspect you smell more juvenile or eunuchoid rather than female. As a cook, I live by my sense of taste, which is about 60% sense of smell, (so if I am the bitch I am sometimes accused of being, I am probably a bloodhound), but I can usually tell men from women from children with my eyes closed. Tests have shown that most people can do the same if they pay attention to their noses. Reasonably clean boys and girls are hard to tell apart before puberty. But at puberty body odor diverge into distinct male and female types.

Transward

Hi transward,

No, I'm not taking estrogen so yes, you are most likely correct with your thoughts on me smelling more juvenile or eunuchoid than manlike. It does make sense. (I am intrigued at your ability to distinguish men from women from children through your sense of smell, but I know what you mean.)

splitz

[transward (imported)]

Hi transward,

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. (I am intrigued at your ability to distinguish men from women from children through your sense of smell, but I know what you mean.)

splitz

A while back they published a study where volunteers were given cloth swatches to smell cut from t shirts worn by men, women and children. Most people were able to tell, with a fair degree of accuracy, the sex of the person wearing the shirt when the wearer was past puberty. In another study both men and women could identify the smell of their romantic partners t shirts from other t shirts worn by people of the same sex as their partner. We receive far more information from our five senses than we bother to become aware of. I suspect that a lot of ESP may not actually involve more than the five senses we all have, but paying attention to information that we previously didn't know how to use. A similar idea is "muscle reading"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_reading

"Muscle reading, also known as Hellstromism and Cumberlandism, is a technique used by mentalists to determine the thoughts or knowledge of a subject, the effect of which tends to be perceived as a form of mind reading. The performer can determine many things about the mental state of a subject by observing subtle, involuntary responses to speech or any other stimuli. It is closely related to the ideomotor effect, whereby subtle movements made without conscious awareness reflect a physical movement, action or direction which the subject is thinking about.

The technique relies on the assertion that the subject will subconsciously reveal their thoughts through very slight involuntary physical reactions, also known as ideomotor responses. The performer can determine what the subject is thinking by recognising and interpreting those responses. Muscle reading may be billed by some entertainers as a psychic phenomenon, where the audience will be told that by creating physical contact with the subject, a better psychic connection can be formed. In fact, the contact allows the performer to read more subtle reactions in the subject's motor functions that may not be apparent without contact, such as muscle control and heart rate.

Because muscle reading relies so heavily on the subject's subconscious reactions to their environment and situation, this technique is used commonly when performing stunts dealing with locating objects in an auditorium or on stage, and as such, it can be done 'clean' by the magician skilled in reading body language.

Perhaps related to the Buddhist idea of "the fully awakened one."

Transward

[Paolo]

Tugon sums is up well.

Jesus (A) has stayed with me before, and can attest to the fact that small children and animals love me. It's not unusual for members of G3's baseball team(s) to be told, "Stay with Paolo," when something comes up and they have to leave. Saturday, I inherited another one. I had another toddler (a boy of course) follow me away from the deli case Sunday night at the grocery store, and I had to take him back.

Now, before the big testosterone crash of 98-99 I think it was, this wasn't the case at all. When I was briefly on HRT some time later, the dog I had at the time began sleeping in the other room. The boys didn't seem to want to be around me. Once off the stuff, and a month later, I was apparently back to my 'lovable' self.

I don't know if it's ESP or scent, or what, but I was told the other day that I didn't 'stink' when it was so hot here. Go figure.

[JesusA (imported)]

I can attest to what Paolo writes. I have watched strange kids come up to him in a store and want to go home with him. I watched a small child try to jump out of a shopping cart to be with him. Something about him is a child attractant.

I first noticed this phenomenon among non-T eunuchs when I was visiting Andrew, one of the long-time, but now absent, members here. We were in a high-backed booth in the back corner of a restaurant when TWICE small children sought him out and tried to climb into his lap! In neither case could they see or hear us before seeking him out.

I doubt that smell is the entire story. I suspect that research on human pheromones will eventually find our answer. I have talked with one of the experts in the field and she thinks that it's worth studying (once she gets the time for it).