Castration can go wrong

[Leon (imported)]

"We want to do as much research as possible. That's why we want to find closeup video or set of photos, and a surgical textbook on the subject would be helpful."

Salami, for a detailed castration on DVD check out:

http://www.bmevideo.com/klyde/index.html

There are quite a few books that explain surgical techniques and procedures. One book which is often recommended on surgical technique is:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... ce&s=books

Another which descrines the procedure is:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 48-6574465

I hope you find these books and DVD helpful.

Now to another point:

Someone else - sorry, I'm terrible with names - recommended for cutters to work in a motel when performing a castration. I live in the Uk, so I have never stayed in a motel, but I can't help but think:

What about sterilisation? I cannot believe a motel room would be sterile enough to perform a castration in safely. There is more info on sterilisation is:

http://www.bmezine.com/ehs-faq.txt

All the best,

Leon

[Blaise (imported)]

Whatever we do is never entirely private. Public consequences result from private behavior. Of course, this is not to defend government telling you or me what we can do with our sexual organs--including getting rid of them.

I would have great reservations about any surgical procedure done in a motel room. In counterpoint, I find it hard to see how getting castrated or emasculated for essentially recreational purposes differs from getting a lot of other modifications folks get done all the time in hospitals.

In response to an earlier post, if I had my penis cut off, I would tell everyone--I'm not sufficiently private!

[sdstudbtm (imported)]

Someone else - sorry, I'm terrible with names - recommended for cutters to work in a motel when performing a castration. I live in the Uk, so I have never stayed in a motel, but I can't help but think:

What about sterilisation? I cannot believe a motel room would be sterile enough to perform a castration in safely.

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Unless there is an strong airflow with airborn particlues then in reality if the person is following sterile procedure there really shouldn't be an increased risk. As a Paramedic we did lots of work in areas where the conditions were less than optimal.

Obviously you want as clean of enviroment as possible, but if sterile procedure is followed then it really doesn't matter.

I do myself prefer working in their home as in that place they are aclimated to the bacteria in their home. Many of the really serious and dangerous types of bacterial are rarely found outside Hospitals. In reallity they are very dangerous places when it comes to bacteria and infections.

So in some ways your precption of a hospital as being clean is only partialy correct. There are areas that are specially cleaned. But some of the bacteria in there is so strong that it is difficlute to remove.

There was a MRSA outbreak many years ago in hospitals and you had to quarentine the patients. They went back to those rooms later after they had supposely been completely disenfected and still found MRSA.

Infection control is a very important part of modern hospitals. You are much less likely to get a serious infection in your own home.

[Leon (imported)]

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So in some ways your precption of a hospital as being clean is only partialy correct. There are areas that are specially cleaned. But some of the bacteria in there is so strong that it is difficlute to remove.

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I did not actually mention hospitals, but a surgical operation room is specially cleaned to be sterile, or as sterile as it can be.

Cuts made outside of a sterile room are considered contaminated wounds. Most doctors will prescribe antibiotics even if there are no signs of infection. As most cutters cannot prescribe antibiotics, infection becomes a serious risk. There is nothing to fight of infection in the scrotum and it can lead to death if left untreated.

If people desire to be castrated in a motel room that is their business. Personally, I would want to be castrated at least in a semi-controlled sterile environment. This is my personal view and want others do is none of my business. As the Master once put it, ‘Do what thou Wilt.’

For me castration is an innate desire, but I do not consider the act itself the goal. If I die from an infection, blood loss or any other complication that may occur, what was the point of being castrated? I wouldn’t have time to enjoy it.

All the best,

Leon

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Taken from WDIV Channel 4 Detroit (http://www.wdiv.com

/)

Original story

(http://www.clickondetroit.com/det/news/stories/news-1

95853520030205-110205.html)

Judge Denies Kitchen Castrator's Plea

Trial Date Set For March

Posted: 12:05 p.m. EST February 5, 2003

A judge decided Tuesday that the case of a man who admitted to performing castrations in his kitchen will go to trial.

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on a dining room table inside an Oak Park home

last June.

Police say

that the victim was found in front of the home

on Northfield Street

with heavy blood stains on the front of his pants,

after emergency medical services personnel received a call from a neighbor.

When asked what happened, the Birmingham

man allegedly told officers that he had undergone a voluntary castration two hours earlier.

Wang's trial date was set for next month.

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Taken from

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t Free Press (http://www.freep.com/)

Orginal

Story (http://www.freep.com/news/locoak/nwang5_20030205.htm)

Amateur surgeon must stand trial

Judge rejects plea from man who performed castration

February 5, 2003

BY MATT HELMS

FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

Probation for an Oak Park man who botched a voluntary

castration isn't enough punishment, so the

would-be surgeon will face trial next month, a judge ruled Tuesday.

Oakland County Circuit Judge Fred Mester told prosecutors and the lawyer for Shuo-Shan Wang, 29, that he was uncomfortable with a plea agreement that could have resulted in probation and no jail time.

"It does not seem to me that Mr. Wang is truly understanding of the seriousness of this violation," Mester said during what was to have been Wang's sentencing Tuesday.

Mester noted that doctors undergo years of training for such a procedure, and patients receive substantial counseling beforehand. He compared Wang's act to Jack Kevorkian meeting with people for a few hours before deciding they're ready to die.

With that, Wang's lawyer, Steve Reina, asked Mester to withdraw the agree

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on charges he practiced medicine without a license and illegally dispensed prescription pain medication he'd bought over the counter in Canada. The charges carry up to four years in prison upon conviction.

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g doesn't deserve a harsh punish

ment because he has no prior criminal record and performed the castration on a 48-year-old Birmingham man who requested the procedure.

Wang pleaded guilty in December, admitting that, in a 40-minute procedure last June on his kitchen table, he removed the testicles of the Birmingham man whom police have not identified. The would-be surgeon had

advertised his services on the Internet.

Police said the castrated man be

gan bleeding uncontrollably. Police found the man sitting in blood-soaked jeans on a curb on Northfield Street after neighbors called authorities. They later found two testicles in a jar in Wang's refrigerator.

The man later underwent emergency surgery at Providence Hospital in Southfi

eld and has recovered. Prosecutors said the man w

anted to be castrated to remove his sex drive after he contracted a sexually transmitted disease.

Wang is a Taiwanese national with a master's degree in engineering. He's in the United States on a long-term student visa. Prosecutors said he has admitted to performing 50 other castrations in Michigan and in his former home in Australia.

Assistant Prosecutor Ken Frazee said outside court that he wasn't concerned by the withdrawal of the plea agreement.

"We're confident in the charges," he said.

Wang remains free on bond. Trial was set for March 31.

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I wonder if jurors in that state are allowed to give a verdict of "not guilty" even when it is clear that someone broke the letter of the law, if they think that the law should be changed.

[Andrew (imported)]

I wonder if jurors in that state are allowed to give a verdict of "not guilty" even when it is clear that someone broke the letter of the law, if they think that the law should be changed.

That sort of thing is known as "Jury Nullification", and is very controversial. It is also warned against in California, although it sometimes happens anyway.

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Orginal Article

(http://www.clickondetroit.com/det/news/stories/news-

208004520030401-060424.html)

Kitchen Castration Trial Gets Under Way

Man Accused Of Practicing Medicine Without

A License

Posted: 7:47 a.m. EST April

1, 2003

Updated: 7:57 a.m. EST April 1, 2003

PONTIAC, Mich.-- Jury selection is expected to begin Tuesday in the trial of a man accused of performing a ca

stration on a kitchen table.

Shuo-Shan Wang (pictured, left) was arrested in June a

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Wang pleaded guilty in December to charges of

practicing medicine without a license, a

nd dispensing prescription medicine without a license. He withdrew hi

s plea after an Oakland County judge said

he would sentence Wang to at least six months in jail.

If convicted of practicing medicine without a license, Wang could go to prison for up to four years.

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Well should find out sure what will happens since jury went into deliberation today. It doesn't look good for him right now and I am very down because of it.