'Roid castration?
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Milkman (imported)
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'Roid castration?
I know two guys who now are on HRT after misuse of steroids. How long would it take to use T to make the testicles shrink, thereby inducing chemical castration that would lead to physical castration? Yes, of course high T does can be dangerous.. but over a short period it might achieve this goal..
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You wouldn't have to use high levels of T to shut down your testicles. All you have to do is meet or exceed your bodys normal level and they quit producing. Testman would probably be a good resource on this but I havn't seen him here in a while. Maybe you can email him?
THey are studying male birth control pills that have a daily dose of T in them that shuts down the testicles. Not sure of the dose but they say the shutdown is reversable with it.
THey are studying male birth control pills that have a daily dose of T in them that shuts down the testicles. Not sure of the dose but they say the shutdown is reversable with it.
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Milkman (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:35 am I know two guys who now are on HRT after misuse of steroids. How long would it take to use T to make the testicles shrink, thereby inducing chemical castration that would lead to physical castration? Yes, of course high T does can be dangerous.. but over a short period it might achieve this goal..
I am not sure of the logic of using high dose of T to cause castration of the testicles. Would think that one thing a person would not want is higher testosterone effects. Most want to have is lower T levels. Would expect such a person would have months if not years of high T to achieve the desired effects. If my balls re running and ruing my life why increase the driving force. Seems like long term steroids is the cause. If it would happen in a short time, think of all the guys in sports or weight lifting would be like a eunuch. It that the case think most athletes would never use steroids.
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Even short term high dose steriods can cause permenant damage to the testicles. I have a friend who as a teenage lifter went nuts with steroid cycles, and ended up having both nuts removed at 17. Seems it is much more likely in younger males.
Dosing with steriods is a dangerous thing, and if misused can damage the heart and liver badly. If the gola is to be separated from your nuts, then way better to seek other moethods that don't carry the risks of steriods.
Raymar
Dosing with steriods is a dangerous thing, and if misused can damage the heart and liver badly. If the gola is to be separated from your nuts, then way better to seek other moethods that don't carry the risks of steriods.
Raymar
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Some guys get very bad shutdown on low doses of testosterone, and others can take huge amounts and get no shutdown at all, but those guys are rare. Most fall somewhere between the two extremes.
BTW, ever think it's interesting when testosterone does something bad, it's called steroids, and when it does something good, then it's just a hormone? LOL
BTW, ever think it's interesting when testosterone does something bad, it's called steroids, and when it does something good, then it's just a hormone? LOL
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Re: 'Roid castration?
Milkman (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:35 am I know two guys who now are on HRT after misuse of steroids. How long would it take to use T to make the testicles shrink, thereby inducing chemical castration that would lead to physical castration? Yes, of course high T does can be dangerous.. but over a short period it might achieve this goal..
Nandrolone Decanoate, even at a low dose would be the choice if suppressing or shrinking your balls is desired. Never heard of shrunken testicles leading to physical castration though. Nandrolone Decanoate, or sometimes called "Deca" for short, is legally available for HRT, in place of testosterone if the patient is older and it's feared testosterone use may increase prostate size. When I used it, my balls were smallest of anything I had ever used. And it didn't take much either. Also, in some countries it's used as a male contraceptive.
So for fast results, use it. But even if you get shutdown all the way, when you come off, your level will still raise. If you were on it for a long enough time, your testosterone level may never go back into the normal range, but it still will be higher than castrate levels. So my thinking is as posted above, bad choice for castration. But I still think some of these weaker versions of testosterone, like Anavar or Equipoise, can be useful for killing the sex drive while not suffering many of the other effects of castration. I used Trenbolone Acetate for three years in a row because it gave me a low sex drive, while actually increasing erectile function and increasing muscle tone/strength. It seemed to make women more interested in me than me in them, which I thought was neat.
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I don't think a quick burst of T would have a strong enough effect to suppress natural T production for long. I've seen a lot fo conflicting information, with some guys seeming to think that certain roids shut them down almost immediately, and others less so.
I'm sure individual results do vary, but I would assume that in order to cause a more meaningful shut down, the dosage would need to be pretty aggressive, and sustained for a while... which might be pushing it as far as more adverse side effects.
I've always wondered if a better way to cause shrinkage of the testicles while maintaining muscle, might be to start with something like lupron, then immediately go on testosterone replacement. The synthetic T would theoretically help prevent a restart in natural T production.
I'm sure individual results do vary, but I would assume that in order to cause a more meaningful shut down, the dosage would need to be pretty aggressive, and sustained for a while... which might be pushing it as far as more adverse side effects.
I've always wondered if a better way to cause shrinkage of the testicles while maintaining muscle, might be to start with something like lupron, then immediately go on testosterone replacement. The synthetic T would theoretically help prevent a restart in natural T production.
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There are too many stories of teens becoming hypogonadal from using RODs, to be an urban myth.
And it's also very variable, one of those things: "your mileage may very"
Also the amount of time you are using HRT or RODs is also a factor of the atrophy of the testicles, just the amount of time for complete atrophy varies for the point of no return.
And it's also very variable, one of those things: "your mileage may very"
Also the amount of time you are using HRT or RODs is also a factor of the atrophy of the testicles, just the amount of time for complete atrophy varies for the point of no return.
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My question too Milkman. I recently started TRT for bone and muscle loss due to low "T". My doctor said and from what I have read my testicles will shrink. For those that are knowledgable, when will I likely notice, how long? and will they stop shrinking at some point or will it not stop until they are pretty much gone?
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baldwin92 (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:53 am My question too Milkman. I recently started TRT for bone and muscle loss due to low "T". My doctor said and from what I have read my testicles will shrink. For those that are knowledgable, when will I likely notice, how long? and will they stop shrinking at some point or will it not stop until they are pretty much gone?
You Testicles will atrophy, but the they will become very small. The speed of this happening varies from person to person. The ending size also will very, from a small pea to a large peanut or larger. Your testicle size when your on HRT will not mater as far as sexual performance is concerned.