Don't shoot your daughter's boyfriend in the nuts!

[Buzz1221 (imported)]

Judge Not, Lest Ye be Judged

Or, Don't Shoot Your Daughter's Boyfriend in the Nuts.

Sheriff's deputies in Navarre, Florida, were called to a noise complaint Monday, and when they arrived on the scene they found a man and a woman running toward them. The man said he had been shot and was bleeding from the groin. The woman with him alleged that her father had shot the victim because "he hates him, dude."

Police located the father, William Russell Kelly Jr, 48, and he allegedly admitted to shooting the boyfriend, Randall Carter. “I shot him in the nuts with bird-shot because he was beating my daughter,” Kelly said, according to his arrest report.

Officers said he was still armed with a Taurus revolver known as "The Judge", which can shoot .410 shotgun shells or .45 caliber slugs:

(From "This is True")

Wonder if it was a successful castration?:-\

[Bagoas (imported)]

I wouldn't be surprised if it were. I have a Taurus Judge 3" Magnum revolver and it is a formidable weapon, especially when loaded with .410 shotshells.

[bobover3 (imported)]

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a tesaticle for a testicle.

I wonder what will happen to dear old dad?

[Hash (imported)]

I think it depends on a few factors as to whether he'll be a eunuch or not, depends on whether the testicles were hanging loosely or tight, depends on whether it was a direct hit or not, and might depend on the medical staffs ability to salvage what remained, but the chances are he will be a eunuch or even a nullo according to this statement: "So far, it seems that at close range, such as those across the average bedroom, buckshot provides deeper penetration, but birdshot will turn a wide, shallower section of material into hamburger." http://www.diyballistics.com/Buckshot%2 ... dshot.html

Even so, there will be around 90 pellets, penetrating nearly three and a half inches, and all hitting within about a one foot circle. There is no magnum handgun that can do anything like this. The smaller birdshot, like the number 9 will only penetrate an inch and a half; but there will be something like 200 of them, spraying out of the muzzle of The Judge.

You can't predict just what damage the bird shot will do, but if it's a wide pattern and it accurately hits the frontal groin area of the male body in a five inch diameter pattern, it's hamburger for the complete genital package. If you were the urology surgeon I'm not sure you would be able to salvage much of anything, if the bird shot was deep, you might have more serious issues to be concerned with than salvaging the penis or testicles, like preserving the man's life. Can you imagine trying to retrieve 100 birdshot pellets from a man's penis or testicles?

http://www.notpurfect.com/main/taur410.html

http://weinterrupt.com/2010/02/man-perf ... boyfriend/

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 449AAS791E

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... CAoQ9QEwAg

[Paolo]

Oooh, this would be a good one to reload with rock salt loads!

[DeaconBlues (imported)]

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a tesaticle for a testicle.

I wonder what will happen to dear old dad?

I also wonder, it is really difficult to accurately predict the outcome of anything that goes into a courtroom... but I will at least make a couple of observations.

The girl's father has done something pretty damn stupid, and he did it in a particularly stupid manner, and I believe that there are two "aggravating factors" that will weigh heavily against him when any jury or judge hears the case, and when he is sentenced (I am pretty sure he will be found guilty of something, and will be sentenced at least).

What are the two "aggravating factors?"

First, he shot a man in a situation that was clearly not "self defense" nor was it really "defense" of his daughter, even if her boyfriend was in fact beating her (and the daughter "victim" does not seem to support this), the father could and should have used other methods to address this problem (i.e. call the police on the boyfriend whenever he beat the daughter). It surely appears to me, that the father used a gun to address a problem where a gun was not called for. The use of a firearm against another human being is pretty much limited to situations where there is an imminent threat to one's life or limb. The "he was beating my daughter" line just does not cut it. Sad irony for the father in this case, if he had beaten the boyfriend with his fists, or even if he had several of his buddies beat the holy crap out of the boyfriend with their fists, he would not be looking at serious jail time, he could have done much much much more physical damage to the boyfriend using other means and not even been arrested... but stupidly he used a gun. In today's America, a gun is a very politically incorrect solution for most anything. His choice of using a gun is going to cost him dearly.

Second "aggravating factor," and this is a biggie, the name of the weapon, "The Judge." Back in the 1980's, I remember reading an article on which weapons were the best for your self defense and home defense, it was written by a police officer/professional witness/home defense expert named Masad Ayoob. Actually it was a very good advice he gave in that article. He said you can own any sort of gun or guns you like, but the one you actually shoot an intruder or attacker with... think long and hard about the gun you actually shoot at another human being with. After all, a judge or a jury will be thinking about it, and worse, a prosecuting attorney will be trying to convince the judge and jury that your actions were not justified. He specifically told the readers to stay away from guns named after snakes (i.e. Python, Diamondback), not because they were not well made and good quality, but because the average judge or jury member will be very put off by that name alone. Also, he said to stay away from any "hot-rod guns" that have been modified and souped up with fancy triggers or sights or what ever. No matter how justified your actions may have been on some dark night when an intruder breaks into your home, the image that will be made in the courtroom, is that of a vicious killer who laid in wait for his victim, much like the "Diamondback" rattlesnake that the gun was named for.

So now, we have a gun actually named "The Judge." Oh my God! Could they have picked any name that could have been more inflammatory and offensive to any real judge who hears this case? While I do not agree with the actions of the father in this case, I actually pity him, because it will be all but impossible for him to get a fair and impartial hearing once this gun is entered into evidence in the courtroom.

[Hash (imported)]

I agree. If the father thought that the boyfriend was hurting his daughter, he should have resorted to other means of helping her. As it is now, he'll be in jail for a long time and the next time his daughter needs help, he won't be around to help her. It retrospect, the father acted rashly and instead of helping the situation actually made it much worse. I wonder if the extent of the boyfriend's wound will be brought out in court? If it is, it could be an embarrassing moment.

Here's another amazing article that everyone should read: eric.stamen.com/ww1/.../12.Genital%20Injuries_War%20Eun.doc

You'll need to paste it in your browser and download it, but it's entitled: "Genital Injuries, War Eunuchs."

[Paolo]

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[Richard_Less (imported)]

Here's another amazing article that everyone should read: eric.stamen.com/ww1/.../12.Genital%20Injuries_War%20Eun.doc

I think I found the article, it's a link to a word/DOC file:

Genital Injuries, War Eunuchs (http://eric.stamen.com/ww1/sexualhistor ... %20Eun.doc)

[DeaconBlues (imported)]

I guess the revolver mentioned here (i.e. "The Judge") must have gotten a boost in demand/sales.

Yesterday, I was in Phoenix for a surgical consult, and while waiting for my appointment I strolled into "Mo' Money" Pawn Shop... They had a few used "Judge" type revolvers for sale. None of them less than $850! That is one pricey bit of steel!