Second chemical castration trial.

[erikboy (imported)]

Yesterday I decided to return from work on rollerskates. I thought that would be easy - 9km...55-60minutes, same time as using public transit, without straining. I was wrong... First 15 minutes - no problem.. At 40minutes I understood that may be that was the wrong thing to do. I arrived home at about 55 minutes, totally drained.

That surprises me, as I opened rollerskating season 4 days ago, and already went home from work in this way - I felt a bit tired that time (and ached all over the next day), but that was all.

Despite low T is contributing factor I think the other important factor is lack of training. You probably haven't been rollerskating for about half a year if I am correct with local weathers in your hometown.

I have experienced something similar with starting bicycle season

Felt weak and exhausted for a week, gradually improving.

[fhunter]

Why? Why when I just found how to deal with some of the problems I have, I just get more?

Okay, would not complain more. And try not to panic (it is not productive) and deal with the problems one at a time. :-\

Now going to the current experience and changes:

physical: my skin is thinner and dryer (mostly seen on hands), and at times I have almost zero energy.

Mentally - I am ok, more easily distracted, but that is all.

Emotionally - I just don't know where to start... what I noticed is I am getting easier depressed (and on more minor reasons). Moods change quicker... There is more, but I need to think and collect what I have observed in one place.

PS. Few weeks ago I started catching myself looking at girls and envying their looks.

Should be all for now. Hope to write more in near future.

[Riven (imported)]

Thank you for writing your thoughts on this thread fhunter, and please don't stop writing them.

My 2 trials with cyproterone were very short. I quit each time after only a week or so. The first effect to hit me was a feeling of shock which I felt as soon as the drug was in my blood stream (I'm still not sure if it was the drug or if it was the excitement of actually doing it). Next was a slightly unfocussed calm/relaxation which I liked at first, but it worried me after a while because I lost a lot of motivation to do anything. I also found I wasn't sleeping properly. I was uncomfortably hot in bed (particularly my feet/legs), and I felt that I just wasn't going into proper REM sleep. A few days of that and I started feeling I could become severely depressed. That was the point at which I quit taking the drug. I guess that's the stage where you need a lot of support.

Do you have a friend you can share this with, or do you only have us on the EA for support?

[fhunter]

Thank you for writing your thoughts on this thread fhunter, and please don't stop writing them.

My 2 trials with cyproterone were very short. I quit each time after only a week or so. The first effect to hit me was a feeling of shock which I felt as soon as the drug was in my blood stream (I'm still not sure if it was the drug or if it was the excitement of actually doing it). Next was a slightly unfocussed calm/relaxation which I liked at first, but it worried me after a while because I lost a lot of motivation to do anything. I also found I wasn't sleeping properly. I was uncomfortably hot in bed (particularly my feet/legs), and I felt that I just wasn't going into proper REM sleep. A few days of that and I started feeling I could become severely depressed. That was the point at which I quit taking the drug. I guess that's the stage where you need a lot of support.

Do you have a friend you can share this with, or do you only have us on the EA for support?

I try to write more or less regularly.

I'll go from bottom to top. Yes, I do have a friend to whom I can go for support. My ex-girlfriend, to be precise. Sometimes I think that she knows me better, than I know myself . She knows of both trials with chemical castration (with attitude of "just don't harm yourself").

Sleep - yes, my sleep patterns changed, and I need more sleep. I don't know if this is good or bad. As for feeling hot - I do have ocasional hot flashes, but not much.

This week (or the next week) I'll try to get my hormone levels tested (just need to contact the lab and then go there).

[Vpapor81 (imported)]

Please let me know if you have wet dream again. Are you abstaining form sex? Do you normally get wet dreams when you abstain? If you dont remember I asked you about it when you had one last time.

[fhunter]

One more crazy day.

It is evening, 23:38 and I am sitting at home, dead tired. Today I thought would be a quiet day at work (I would hack the usb drivers, trying to make them work normally), but no such luck.

It all started when I went for lunch. I work at two places: full-time as a programmer and as a part time sysadmin at the university. Why I still admin that department's network for a 100$/month and a "thank you" is a mystery to me, but that is another question.

So just in the middle of lunch I get a call: "all is lost, nothing works, help!!!!", after gently prying the details, I start calling and call back with the answer: "not my zone of responsibility, it is being fixed now, do not touch anything, everything should work in 15 minutes".

I thought that it would be all. No such luck... An hour later I get one more call, as usual with cryptic description of problems. Ever tried to troubleshoot something over the phone? Well in 30 minutes I found out that one of lab assistants plugged in a wireless router into the network "to test the link", aha, with DHCP switched on. That was not the only problem, so, after work, I went to the university across half the city, and then back home. As usual 1 hour to get to the server, 15 minutes to check and fix everything and 1 hour to get home.

Yesterday was not much better - it was a day off, and I planed to go rollerskating with a friend. No such luck, weather corrected our plans... first it was a cold, wet day. And second - I've got a headache for the whole day, due to low BP.

So currently I am not in the best of my moods.

Fhunter, with hopes of better tomorrow.

[fhunter]

Please let me know if you have wet dream again. Are you abstaining form sex? Do you normally get wet dreams when you abstain? If you dont remember I asked you about it when you had one last time.

If I'll have wet dream, I'll post about it.

If I abstained - sometimes I had wet dreams but that was rare.

As for abstaining from sex - I still masturbate from time to time (probably more out of habit, that from real need)... it moved from almost daily before CC, to once in 7-9 days now.

[erikboy (imported)]

One more crazy day.

It is evening, 23:38 and I am sitting at home, dead tired. Today I thought would be a quiet day at work (I would hack the usb drivers, trying to make them work normally), but no such luck.

It all started when I went for lunch. I work at two places: full-time as a programmer and as a part time sysadmin at the university. Why I still admin that department's network for a 100$/month and a "thank you" is a mystery to me, but that is another question.

So just in the middle of lunch I get a call: "all is lost, nothing works, help!!!!", after gently prying the details, I start calling and call back with the answer: "not my zone of responsibility, it is being fixed now, do not touch anything, everything should work in 15 minutes".

I thought that it would be all. No such luck... An hour later I get one more call, as usual with cryptic description of problems. Ever tried to troubleshoot something over the phone? Well in 30 minutes I found out that one of lab assistants plugged in a wireless router into the network "to test the link", aha, with DHCP switched on. That was not the only problem, so, after work, I went to the university across half the city, and then back home. As usual 1 hour to get to the server, 15 minutes to check and fix everything and 1 hour to get home.

Yesterday was not much better - it was a day off, and I planed to go rollerskating with a friend. No such luck, weather corrected our plans... first it was a cold, wet day. And second - I've got a headache for the whole day, due to low BP.

So currently I am not in the best of my moods.

Fhunter, with hopes of better tomorrow.

If I am correct it is now day 38th on Androcur.

As I see, tiredness is one of the negative side effects with low T. I understand that things irritate more than they used to be.

My only experience with low T was during my prepuberty years. What I clearly remember is that before puberty some movies could easily make me cry, while after puberty same category movies did not make me cry. About tiredness... The only change was perhaps increased energy and less need for sleep.

With my abstination experience from January till the end of April this energy even increased along with sexdrive close to unbearable.

Perhaps, if you give up masturbation, your energy levels increase slightly? Perhaps.

Btw., have you noticed any change with skin oiliness/dryness? Have you gained some weight?

wbr.,

E.

[fhunter]

If I am correct it is now day 38th on Androcur.

As I see, tiredness is one of the negative side effects with low T. I understand that things irritate more than they used to be.

My only experience with low T was during my prepuberty years. What I clearly remember is that before puberty some movies could easily make me cry, while after puberty same category movies did not make me cry. About tiredness... The only change was perhaps increased energy and less need for sleep.

With my abstination experience from January till the end of April this energy even increased along with sexdrive close to unbearable.

Perhaps, if you give up masturbation, your energy levels increase slightly? Perhaps.

Btw., have you noticed any change with skin oiliness/dryness? Have you gained some weight?

wbr.,

E.

It is day 75. I started on the 9-th of march.

About weight gain - may be some - haven't checked. I was at 65kg last autumn, so 2-3 kilograms wouldn't be a big problem (I know, that starting to think this way is a beginning of gaining weight ). I still fit into my jeans with 27 inch waist - so probably haven't gained much.

On one hand I have a desk job and lack exersize. On the other hand - I spend about an hour walking every workday -30 minutes total to work and about the same or a bit more - from work.

And I try to watch what I eat and how much, so I think that weight gain isn't a big problem right now. There is some fat redistribution on face, but not much.

As for skin changes - skin is dryer (mostly on hands). The other change is that facial hair is lighter in color and grows slower (5 days since last shave. upper lip and chin - about 1-2mm).

Energy levels - they are not constantly low. About a week ago I said "no more caffeine abuse" and limited it to two cups of coffee a day - first cup after arriving to work - to finally wake up. The other one - in the middle of the day. Now I feel better.

Of other changes - reaction to stress changed and I am easier distracted now.

[fhunter]

Today (oh, it was already yesterday) was one of a bad days.

First I woke up late (not late enough to be late for work), it was a battle with myself to finally get out of bed. Then I tried to do a minimal morning exercise, but quickly understood that I had almost zero energy. But the worst was that I felt like I hadn't woke up. And that stopped only in the second half of the day. Add here irritability and you get the picture. :-\

PS. I forgot to write - irritability and the lack of energy are not constant.