I Wonder

[Dave (imported)]

I wonder

was it just a cover-up of his abduction by a UFO.

Like the substitute body in his father's coffin, cover up.

Moi

That was awful.

[moi621 (imported)]

There was a substitute body.

One with a head.

His one and a half page coroners report failed to mention known medical ailments. His 'secret' medical conditions went with him beyond the grave.

Moi

No wondering, it came from the grassy knoll.

Not from above, behind with multiple ricochet directional changes.

[A-1 (imported)]

There was a substitute body.

One with a head.

His one and a half page coroners report failed to mention known medical ailments. His 'secret' medical conditions went with him beyond the grave.

Moi

No wondering, it came from the grassy knoll.

Not from above, behind with multiple ricochet directional changes.

moi.

The key to proving it is in the autopsy photos and the New England Journal of Medicine.

The autopsy photos clearly show no Lumbar Laminectomy scars.

As you know, Jack had Addison's disease and chronic lumbar derangement. The New England Journal of Medicine from the time in the 1950's describes the type of surgery that was state-of-the-art at the time when he had his surgery and he had the typical hardware installed.

He had a post-surgical infection and had to have the hardware removed and a bone fusion done. His incision was loosely closed and drained for months as it healed leaving a depression and a horrible scar. This is why he wore the lumbar brace for the remainder of his life. It is also when he started picking up the weight from all the rounds of corticosteroids and acquired the 'moon face'.

So you are right. I do not know who lies beneath that 'eternal flame' but either it is NOT John F. Kennedy or all of the information in the autopsy was faked for the sake of the Warren Commission findings.

That was another fine mess that Gerry Ford got us out of. Why is it that he always was stuck with the dirty work?

You guys, DO NOT poke fun at moi on this. He is ABSOLUTELY right. He knows whereof he speaks on this one. It is a NOT too well-kept secret among those 'in the know' in the field of medicine.

[Riverwind (imported)]

the whole JFK thing was botched from the start but I will go with the offical record that he was shot in the head, and he died, he is baried at Arlington and a flame is above his head, you don't need to believe that and I really don't care.

Not everything in this world is a conspiracy, no matter what you want to believe. Until they bring up that casket and open it up and confirm its Kennedy in the damn thing you will not believe it, me never mind.

Stupid this is just stupid.

River

[A-1 (imported)]

the whole JFK thing was botched from the start but I will go with the offical record that he was shot in the head, and he died, he is baried at Arlington and a flame is above his head, you don't need to believe that and I really don't care.

Not everything in this world is a conspiracy, no matter what you want to believe. Until they bring up that casket and open it up and confirm its Kennedy in the damn thing you will not believe it, me never mind.

Stupid this is just stupid.

River

So are YOU of the opinion that the AUTOPSY was FAKED, then? Is this what you just said? You picked the one of the two options that I submitted, didn't you?

BUT, of course you are correct. NOT EVERYTHING is a conspiracy but the JFK thing WAS a conspiracy and EXACTLY what happened WE will never know because it involves the highest reaches of the U.S. government and may well still be an issue of national security.

Just remember, Harry Truman was NOT told about the Manhattan Project until AFTER FDR died.

Our government runs on a "need to know" criteria regarding national security and I am sure that is STILL true today.

...bottom line... WE DO NOT NEED TO KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963...

DO WE?

:-\

:shakemitk

[moi621 (imported)]

There are some who speculate Harry Truman learned of the Manhattan Project as the Chair of a Senate Committee investigating war expenditures.

Question: Why or who would be behind such secrets regarding the body of JFK?

River, your military service may require you to believe the pablumized truth or your military service may recognize the classic cross fire kill ala grassy knoll.

Just wondering,

Moi

[Riverwind (imported)]

I have already said that the whole thing was botched, from start to finish, I am sure someone knows the real truth, but I believe Kennedy was killed in Dallas that November day in 1963, that his body is in the casket that went to Arlington. As for who killed him, or how many, I don't think we will ever know the truth, but its just not worth me spending time screwing with it, its a waist of my energy, I have better things to do with my time then worrying about if the government faked an autopsy report on Kennedy, or if there was a second shooter on the grassy knoll, of it the government was behind 911, or if Ben Laden was really shot and sent to feed the fish, or if Truman knew about the Bomb before he became president, or if the world will really end on Oct 21st or Dec 21st or any number of other time wasting ways to spend what little time I have left worrying about things I will never find the real answer about.

I really don't care, Truman said he did not know about the bomb until he was president, I accept that. The world will end as we know it but when we will not know, I accept that Ben Laden was killed by the Seals, and if we dig up JFK we will find his body in that grave and the twin towers still fell down after being hit by two jet planes. You can conger up all the conspiracy theories you want, but for me its a total waist of time. It starts to sound like republican scar tactics.

River

[gareth19 (imported)]

I have already said that the whole thing was botched, from start to finish, I am sure someone knows the real truth, but I believe Kennedy was killed in Dallas that November day in 1963, that his body is in the casket that went to Arlington. As for who killed him, or how many, I don't think we will ever know the truth, but its just not worth me spending time screwing with it, its a waist of my energy, I have better things to do with my time then worrying about if the government faked an autopsy report on Kennedy, or if there was a second shooter on the grassy knoll, of it the government was behind 911, or if Ben Laden was really shot and sent to feed the fish, or if Truman knew about the Bomb before he became president, or if the world will really end on Oct 21st or Dec 21st or any number of other time wasting ways to spend what little time I have left worrying about things I will never find the real answer about.

I really don't care, Truman said he did not know about the bomb until he was president, I accept that. The world will end as we know it but when we will not know, I accept that Ben Laden was killed by the Seals, and if we dig up JFK we will find his body in that grave and the twin towers still fell down after being hit by two jet planes. You can conger up all the conspiracy theories you want, but for me its a total waist of time. It starts to sound like republican scar tactics.

River

A number of people wrote about Kennedy after his death, and at least one stated that Jacqueline Kennedy specifically asked him to suppress certain facts. She was a zealous promoter of the Kennedy legacy, and such uncomfortable facts as the President's medical infirmities might not have squared with the image they were trying to project.

After Custer was killed, a number of unpleasant facts about the dead were suppressed out of "respect" for Custer's widow, and a number of officers made it clear that once Mrs. Custer went to her reward fuller information would be forthcoming. Unfortunately, Mrs. Custer outlived all of the commissioners who investigated the battle and they never got the opportunity to lay blame on Custer's foolhardy behavior.

Similarly, embarrassing details about Scott's Antarctic expedition were suppressed out of respect for his widow. While this behavior now strikes us as irresponsible, it was fairly common at the time. JFK's back problems were irrelevant; the cause of death was a gunshot wound to the head. That these details were not made available in 1963 is only surprising to people who expect to you-tube post-mortem pictures of Heath Ledger or Michael Jackson. There once was a time when the privacy of the dead and their families were respected, if only for a brief time after death.

[moi621 (imported)]

I Wonder

Why "they" don't just declare it private rather then put up a hoax!

And how many does it take to perpetrate the hoax, including the Warren Commission?

Einstein left his brain to science. It is anatomically unique, BTW. JFK's adrenal glands deserved no less. His accomplishments in light of his illness were the stuff of medical scrutiny and learning.

Jackie the Keeper of the Flame. Hardly! She opted out ASAP to the dismay of the nation. That is how I remember it. No blame to Jackie, just how I remember it. It was her's to choose.

Moi

[Riverwind (imported)]

Moi, you need to forgive them for not letting you in on all there secrets, after all they should have told you everything.

River