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SmoothieSoon (imported)
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To Burdizzo or not to Burdizzo
I have seen a lot of posts that say a burdizzo castration will not work or is dangerous. I have also seen a lot of posts saying it is one of best non-surgical castration methods.
Does anyone have an outside, independent report (preferably from a reputable medical source) of its effectiveness or danger level ?
All this contradictory information is very confusing. - Thanks
Does anyone have an outside, independent report (preferably from a reputable medical source) of its effectiveness or danger level ?
All this contradictory information is very confusing. - Thanks
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sduyck_2000 (imported)
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doctors have tested this method at wayne university
and a university in south Africa has tested it on 50 men with prostate cancer and found it to be safe ...fast ....simple ..and effective
just search incissionless office castration
and a university in south Africa has tested it on 50 men with prostate cancer and found it to be safe ...fast ....simple ..and effective
just search incissionless office castration
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Re: To Burdizzo or not to Burdizzo
SmoothieSoon (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:12 am I have seen a lot of posts that say a burdizzo castration will not work or is dangerous. I have also seen a lot of posts saying it is one of best non-surgical castration methods.
Does anyone have an outside, independent report (preferably from a reputable medical source) of its effectiveness or danger level ?
All this contradictory information is very confusing. - Thanks
Here are some posts I found on THIS site. Some personal experiences.
eunuch2001
I tried castration with the Burdizzo three times, and each time it was a failure. The procedure was painless because I had Xylocaine injected into my cords and scrotum, but I was sore after the Xylocaine wore off and I had deep cuts into my scrotum that took a while to heal. The first time I was clamped for 30 seconds each side. The second time I was clamped twice each side for 30 seconds. The third attempt I was clamped twice each side and the clamp was kept closed for 90 seconds each time. Either my nuts had a remarkable tenacity for survival or maybe the Burdizzo is better suited for animals. Anyway, the idea of being castrated by a Burdiizo is a great fantasy but not a practical reality.
TR_80504
I tried chemical castration for 11 months and loved it. I just ran into the problem of paying for the siterone and tamoxofin. For me to reach castration t levels it got expensive.
So I read alot about the burdizzo and what appeared to be the most successful way to do it. I decided upon clamping each side for 15 minutes while pulling occasionally on the nut side of the cord.
I used super t to deaden the skin and injected my sack and tried to squirt some on the cords. This proved to kill the pain during and the pain after didnt really kick in for several days when the testicle swelled up quite large. The left side didnt really do much of anything.
So that is when I decided to clamp my left side again. My big mistake was I didnt wait real long between clamping. This caused a big gash to open in my sack, which is still healing a month latter. I really needed to get stitched up but didnt.
Was I successful? Only to the degree of reducing my sex drive drastically but not in totally castrating myself. In a sense I was successful in that I am not having the problems in my life now that was going to ruin my life and I am happy.
If I had the money and a good urologist I would have definitely paid to have it done right. So m y advise is to try chemical castration first and be sure this is what you want. If you do decide to try a burdizzo be prepared for complications and pain.
kangan
This is NOT the way to go about it. For one thing, your cords will be end up attached to what is left of your scrotum and cause severe and continuing pain. Stay away from the Burdizzo tool also. If you try these methods, you can expect to end up in the ER and having surgery to fix the mess that you made. This will be most embarrassing and expen$ive too.
Philip1
as a well documented IDIOT I can speak from all sides of this issue. Desperation can make one do crazy things believe me I did and that was stupid. Using an alternate method is also not wise I tried that and nearly died. The only proven safe and effective method is surgery performed by a qualified surgeon.
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sduyck_2000 (imported)
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Incisionless in-office castration using a veterinary castration device (Burdizzo clamp).
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Herzog ME, Santucci RA
Urology 2002; 59:946.
Abstract
Nonoperative ablation of the testicular artery has been described in animals using the Burdizzo clamp, but not in humans. We report a case of incisionless castration performed using local anesthesia, in a transsexual who wished to avoid the pain, expense, and scar associated with the open procedure. The Burdizzo clamp crushed the spermatic cord bilaterally, and the testis was allowed to atrophy. The soft-tissue damage was minimal, and the serum testosterone fell to castrate levels. This method has proved useful for castration in a transgender patient, but could also be used for castration in patients with advanced prostate cancer.
MEDLINE
CITATION ALERT
EXPORT CITATION
EMAIL TO A COLLEAGUE
RELATED RECORDS
Herzog ME, Santucci RA
Urology 2002; 59:946.
Abstract
Nonoperative ablation of the testicular artery has been described in animals using the Burdizzo clamp, but not in humans. We report a case of incisionless castration performed using local anesthesia, in a transsexual who wished to avoid the pain, expense, and scar associated with the open procedure. The Burdizzo clamp crushed the spermatic cord bilaterally, and the testis was allowed to atrophy. The soft-tissue damage was minimal, and the serum testosterone fell to castrate levels. This method has proved useful for castration in a transgender patient, but could also be used for castration in patients with advanced prostate cancer.
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sduyck_2000 (imported)
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If you plan on using a burdizzo
Let a doctor do it...he has the skill to hold the cords during the whole procedure..and the patience to keep the clamp closed the 10 minutes required to let the blood clot
not the 30 seconds that amatuers seem to always try which never works with animals either
Let a doctor do it...he has the skill to hold the cords during the whole procedure..and the patience to keep the clamp closed the 10 minutes required to let the blood clot
not the 30 seconds that amatuers seem to always try which never works with animals either
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The burdizzo can be effective in castrating a human male. However, more often than not, it is NOT successful. Based upon my own experience, as well as that of others I've exchanged with, you have about a 1 in 10 chance of being completely successful. Of course, that is seat of the pants guessing. There are in fact members here who have successfully castrated this way.
If doing this be prepared for a great deal of pain, not only at the time of clamping, but for a couple of weeks afterward. Be certain to get some lidocaine or similar local pain killer and inject a great deal of it all around the area. Get a friend to do the clamping; promise - you will not be able to do it yourself. People talk of doing it fast - that just reduces the duration of intense pain; it is not critical to any success. Experience says that multiple clampings with some duration are more likely to be successful.
The pain, even with lidocaine, can be excutiating. You will acquire a severe laceration where you clamp, you will scar, you will get a severe hematomae, you will swell. It will likely take a good two weeks of gradually diminishing pain to recover. After all that, you may cause some damage, you may not.
I was originally clamped once on each side. It was not effective. Two years later, I was clamped 3 times on each side, 30-60 seconds duration for each clamping. I was extremely severely bruised and bloodied, my scrotum swelled to the size of a grapefruit, and I was in intrense pain. I took a full three weeks to heal. Two months later, my T levels were a bit diminished, but not significantly.
About four months later, I was surgically castrated. Both testicles appeared normal and fully functional - ergo, the burdizzo experience was completely unsuccessful for me.
Your call...
If doing this be prepared for a great deal of pain, not only at the time of clamping, but for a couple of weeks afterward. Be certain to get some lidocaine or similar local pain killer and inject a great deal of it all around the area. Get a friend to do the clamping; promise - you will not be able to do it yourself. People talk of doing it fast - that just reduces the duration of intense pain; it is not critical to any success. Experience says that multiple clampings with some duration are more likely to be successful.
The pain, even with lidocaine, can be excutiating. You will acquire a severe laceration where you clamp, you will scar, you will get a severe hematomae, you will swell. It will likely take a good two weeks of gradually diminishing pain to recover. After all that, you may cause some damage, you may not.
I was originally clamped once on each side. It was not effective. Two years later, I was clamped 3 times on each side, 30-60 seconds duration for each clamping. I was extremely severely bruised and bloodied, my scrotum swelled to the size of a grapefruit, and I was in intrense pain. I took a full three weeks to heal. Two months later, my T levels were a bit diminished, but not significantly.
About four months later, I was surgically castrated. Both testicles appeared normal and fully functional - ergo, the burdizzo experience was completely unsuccessful for me.
Your call...
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sduyck_2000 (imported)
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most people make lousy doctors
my advise let the professionals do it
a vet did me with a burdizzo
i was castrated without a problem ..no swelling ..no scarring ..no pain after the xylocaine wore off
i was advised on proper after care as well which is important
never ever clamp twice..do just one testicle at a time..i dont know where this 2 clamp idea came from ..if you cant accomplish the job with one proper clamp...ether your tool is no good or ...you lack the ability to do it right
no doctor that uses a burdizzo clamps twice
burdizzo use is castration in slow motion..it requires a lot of patience
my advise let the professionals do it
a vet did me with a burdizzo
i was castrated without a problem ..no swelling ..no scarring ..no pain after the xylocaine wore off
i was advised on proper after care as well which is important
never ever clamp twice..do just one testicle at a time..i dont know where this 2 clamp idea came from ..if you cant accomplish the job with one proper clamp...ether your tool is no good or ...you lack the ability to do it right
no doctor that uses a burdizzo clamps twice
burdizzo use is castration in slow motion..it requires a lot of patience
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SmoothieSoon (imported)
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Thanks - I looked on www.pubmed.gov and entered the search term
self-castration (with the hyphen). A lot of actual medical cases came up. I will have to give it some more thought...
self-castration (with the hyphen). A lot of actual medical cases came up. I will have to give it some more thought...
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sduyck_2000 (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:01 am most people make lousy doctors
my advise let the professionals do it
a vet did me with a burdizzo
i was castrated without a problem ..no swelling ..no scarring ..no pain after the xylocaine wore off
i was advised on proper after care as well which is important
never ever clamp twice..do just one testicle at a time..i dont know where this 2 clamp idea came from ..if you cant accomplish the job with one proper clamp...ether your tool is no good or ...you lack the ability to do it right
Last I heard a Vet is a doctor. He has medical training on castration of animals. That is part of his job. Think he could be called an expert!
Double, triple, clamping comes from the fact that most single clamping just dose not seem to work.
Having no pain while it is done can very well be. I know that first hand. I was done surgically. But when the pain killer wears off it is a different story. You do have pain and discomfort. Anyone that has gotten the tip of there finger crushed from a pliers knows the pain. Think of perhaps an inch of the sensitive scrotum being crushed to almost paper thin. You know that is going to hurt for some time later. You know it will be black and blue. What if the cord is not fully crushed and pulls away and starts to bleed inside the sack? Not saying not to do the burdizzo. Just saying with if.
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Click on my user name and look at posts I have made on bad things that happened in my use of burdizzo. I would cut and paste or otherwise place it here to be read, if I recalled how. & or its a pain to do on a laptop.