Tens machines.

[Paolo]

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/ ... merica.htm

We don't know if Stella got millions from the hot coffee, but McDonalds did get whacked with a big fine.

[roadrnnr99 (imported)]

I don't want to alarm anyone, but there is a downside to extended intense electrical stimulation to the internal genitals with AC voltage above 10 to 15 volts - you are actually cooking the electrical pathways the the current takes. This can burn/cauterize sensitive tissue between the terminal points. Current will flow through the blood vessels, or nerve bundles or urethra depending on the path of least resistance and where you connect the leads. I used a train transformer on a regular basis, as it was the only way I was able to stimulate an orgasm/ejaculation. It felt very intense being on the borderline between pain and ecstasy, but after 20-30 minutes I found it left burns at pubic and urethral contact points. The internal tissues became less and less sensitive and I had to increase the voltage eventually to maximum. At that point I'm sure I was doing some serious destruction down there. It has taken several months of abstaining from this, and sensitivity has not yet returned. Be careful.

[coinflipper_21 (imported)]

I don't want to alarm anyone, but there is a downside to extended intense electrical stimulation to the internal genitals with AC voltage above 10 to 15 volts - you are actually cooking the electrical pathways the the current takes. This can burn/cauterize sensitive tissue between the terminal points. Current will flow through the blood vessels, or nerve bundles or urethra depending on the path of least resistance and where you connect the leads. I used a train transformer on a regular basis, as it was the only way I was able to stimulate an orgasm/ejaculation. It felt very intense being on the borderline between pain and ecstasy, but after 20-30 minutes I found it left burns at pubic and urethral contact points. The internal tissues became less and less sensitive and I had to increase the voltage eventually to maximum. At that point I'm sure I was doing some serious destruction down there. It has taken several months of abstaining from this, and sensitivity has not yet returned. Be careful.

A train transformer! Ye Gods! That's a long way from a Tens unit and very dangerous. I know because a girlfriend of mine used one on me during a session of bondage sex many years back and I think it was six months until I could cum normally again. Needless to say, that ended the relationship.

[mrt (imported)]

OMG! I clicked the link on the McDonalds hot coffee lawsuit.

We really need to have a new death penalty for the people on this jury...

Mr Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City.

In November 2000 Mr Grazinski purchased a brand new 32 foot

Winnebago motor home. On his first trip home, having joined

the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 mph and calmly

left the drivers seat to go into the back and make himself

a cup of coffee. Not surprisingly the Winnie left the

freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr Grazinski sued Winnebago

for not advising him in the handbook that he couldn't actually

do this. He was awarded $1,750,000 plus a new Winnie. (Winnebago

actually changed their handbooks on the back of this court

case, just in case there are any other complete morons

buying their vehicles.)

With this legal system we are all DOOMED!!!!!

Kill the Lawyers and BOMB DETROIT!

[kristoff]

Mr Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City.

In November 2000 Mr Grazinski purchased a brand new 32 foot

Winnebago motor home. On his first trip home, having joined

the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 mph and calmly

left the drivers seat to go into the back and make himself

a cup of coffee. Not surprisingly the Winnie left the

freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr Grazinski sued Winnebago

for not advising him in the handbook that he couldn't actually

do this. He was awarded $1,750,000 plus a new Winnie. (Winnebago

actually changed their handbooks on the back of this court

case, just in case there are any other complete morons

buying their vehicles.)

Look a bit closer. The post said it was a fiction, that no reference to any such lawsuit could be found. It also listed several other "cases" that have been making the rounds as urban legends. Of all the "cases" that were listed, ONLY the McAck-in-a-Sack was real, and they deserved to take a pounding on it! Read the whole thing please.

[coinflipper_21 (imported)]

Look a bit closer. The post said it was a fiction, that no reference to any such lawsuit could be found. It also listed several other "cases" that have been making the rounds as urban legends. Of all the "cases" that were listed, ONLY the McAck-in-a-Sack was real, and they deserved to take a pounding on it! Read the whole thing please.

Yes, the cruise control story is an urban legend (Probably been around since cruise controls were first offered.), but the fact is that many industries have been driven out of the country by the very real possibility of lawsuits.

The infamous Black and Decker case was the start of it back in the early '50s. (May have been the '60s, I'll have to look it up. ) Briefly (No legal pun intended.) a numb nuts homeowner cut the grounding contact off the plug on his grounded power tool so he could use it with a 2-wire extension cord. Was using it up on the roof and grabbed a vent stack to steady himself. The resulting shock threw him off the roof, the fall breaking both his arms, among other injuries. Black and Decker lost the case! This was the decision that effectively ended the notion of contributory negligence in U.S. courts with the possible exception of televised small claims courts. From that case on it was only a question of who could be involved with deep pockets.

There are a great many things that are no longer made in the U.S. not because of cheaper foreign labor, but because the danger of massive product liability suits, even in the face of blatant stupidity on the part of the purchaser bringing suit, makes manufacturing them here too risky. This is also why so many innovative and useful changes to existing products are pioneered by foreign manufacturers now. Anything new or different attracts the attention of lawyers.

I don't go along with those (mostly Republicans) who want blanket limitations on tort law. That's going too far in the other direction and providing no remedy at all for the legitimately injured, but somehow our courts need to strike a balance. We don't need to kill all the lawyers just spank them a bit.

[Paolo]

An electric train transformer?

I had one of them blow up when I was about 8, set the rug on fire, and burned my leg, too. A foot closer, and it might have burnt something else!

[SplitDik (imported)]

Back to the original question about safety of TENS units (or electro-stim in general). I think anything that causes pain probably causes pain for a reason. There could some level of damage caused, maybe some nerve damage, some muscle control, etc. Of course this depends on many factors like the frequency, voltage, DC versus AC, the way it is grounded, etc. But I don't think anyone can say its "perfectly safe" especially without knowing the specifics of the equipment and your use of the equipment.

So if you're worried about fertility, prostate function, bladder function, erectile difficulty, etc. it is better to avoid any unusual stimulation.

With that being said, many people do use such stimulation without known issues, and the warning on the box is probably just conservative legal stuff.

I would say you should use your own common sense -- when you use it are you feeling a gentle buzz/tickle, or are you feeling muscle-cramping pain? Does it ache long afterwards? Do you notice any issues with loss of sensation, or phantom sensation afterwards, etc.

I personally am very masochistic, but I have to admit that most things that cause pain do also cause damage. I'm willing to accept that, but it does mean I've ended up requiring medical attention to undo some of the damage. So do have fun with sensation play, but also take care of yourself and don't let self-harm go too far.

By the way, if you really want some electro-stimulation you should try an electro-ejaculator (used on farms to force sperm from sheep and such for breeding purposes).

[mrt (imported)]

Look a bit closer. The post said it was a fiction, that no reference to any such lawsuit could be found. It also listed several other "cases" that have been making the rounds as urban legends. Of all the "cases" that were listed, ONLY the McAck-in-a-Sack was real, and they deserved to take a pounding on it! Read the whole thing please.

Your right. THANK GOD. If people were this dumb?!?!

Well at least not as dumb as me to believe this crap! :-\