What do you think about....

[JustAGuy (imported)]

Okay everyone, I was just wondering what you all thought about juvenile sex-offenders and what should be done to prevent them from re-offending as adults. In the state I live in one can't be placed on the Sex and Violent Offenders Registry unless they have committed a sex or violent crime after the offender has already turned 14 at the time of the offense.

So again, what do you all think should be done to juveniles that has committed sex crimes (at any age)? And when I say sex crimes I basically mean rape or something of that nature, not the lesser stuff like say urinating in public (which in the state I live in you can be placed on the SVOR for it.) Btw I live in IN.

[raymar2020 (imported)]

The way that most states deal with the sex offenders registry is a travisty.

Here in Maryland, a boy of 18 who has a 16 year old girlfriend with whom he has consentual sex can be listed FOREVER as a sexual offender.

Urinating in public,(pissing in an alley by a dumpster) can get you on the list as well.

Seems to me that we as a society need to be very careful of who we place on the registry. Rapists, child molesters, and other voilent sexual predators certainly should be there, but a boy who has sex with his underage girlfriend?

We are currently ruining innocent lives with our puritan ways, and the list for many becomes a Scarlet Letter.

Those who are truly a threat should be kept in state run facilities, until such time as competent professionals deem them cured of their antisocial behavior. If not, then we keep them in facilities away from the population, not living blocks from schools.

Even voluntary surgical castration is not a solution since all one needs is some testosterone to overcome that, and if we were to emasculate them, then they'd just use other things to penetrate.

Proper administration of the offender list as a National database is essential, and making sure that some randy teenagers life isn't ruined by being listed is paramount.

Raymar

[castr8fun (imported)]

There's a video you can google where in middle east a sex offenders penis is cut off in public on a chopping block with a sword. That's what I consider poetic justice for violent sex offenders. They do need to go one step further I think and thats to cut their balls off to. There's another vid in Africa somewhere where a tribe cut a sex offenders penis off with a knife, again a certain way of stopping re-offending.

I am a bit sus about the ones who claim that they want to be castrated after they are caught. I think they might just be trying to live out their fantasies at tax payer expense.

I feel that chemical castration just doesn't put fear in to their minds before they offend.

[bobberlove (imported)]

I think these deviant sex perpetrators of any age should be forced to watch reruns of "Ellen" until they crack and become sniveling, pathetic, weeping wretches. After this horrific punishment, which puts this civilization back into the stone age, we should have them publicy emasculated. We could maybe sell popcorn or tacos.

[moi621 (imported)]

Greg Heidl of Orange County Califo-nia fame is currently living in Laguna Beach and requesting the courts to over turn his conviction so he will not be on all those lists or have to register in a new neighborhood.

It is getting so a kid can't couch his peers to abuse a passed out girl with a pool cue and lit cigarettes without being, labeled for the rest of his life.

Moi

[Sweetpickle (imported)]

colorado seems to have found the worst possible solution.

Juvenile offenders can receive an "indeterminate sentence",

they are kept in prison until the prison decides to let them

go. They are required to complete courses which are available

at only one prison and that prison does not have sufficient room

for those who must take the programs.

An 18 year old who gets his 16 year old girlfriend pregnant is

likely to be in prison for life.

[Mac (imported)]

colorado seems to have found the worst possible solution.

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An 18 year old who gets his 16 year old girlfriend pregnant is

likely to be in prison for life.

I agree there should be special consideration for the 18 year old with a 16 year old girlfriend if the sex is consentual.

Nullification (castration and penectomy) would be a good punishment for adult male sex offenders if adequate precautions are taken to assure that they are actually guilty and not falsely charged. However, what would be an equivalent punishment for adult females who have sex with underage boys?

[JustAGuy (imported)]

Okay, getting away from my original post which was about juvenile sex-offenders.

What should be done to prevent juvenile sex-offenders from re-offending?

[bobover3 (imported)]

Juveniles who commit criminal acts of any kind are treated differently because we acknowledge the possibility they may be confused or misled or immature, and that they may learn better ways. Juveniles are assumed to be more remediable than adults, so the emphasis is on re-education rather than punishment. Society does not want to waste a potentially valuable life.

Nothing can be done to prevent anyone from re-offending, regardless of their age or their crime. One can only hope, and part of hoping is to extend young people the chance to prove they've reformed. I understand the rate of recidivism for sexual offenders is high, but I believe the rate is high for all ex-convicts. It's a topic for another thread, but I've read of pilot programs which have helped ex-convicts greatly reduce their recidivism.

I suspect that the far greater punishment given to sex offenders compared to other criminals (denial of parole, involuntary commitment after "release," public watch lists, etc.) reflects our sad discomfort with sex more than it does anything else. A man who exposes his wee-wee in public is seen by many to be worse than a mere armed robber or drug dealer. The flasher is felt to be morally abnormal, while we can sympathize with someone who hurts other people for money. That reflects our own peculiar money-based morality more than it does the objective danger of various criminals. Violent crime must, of course, be strongly discouraged, whether or not there's a sexual aspect to the crime.

Here at EA, we should resist the temptation to project our own castration fantasies onto the law. This may entertain us, but it makes for bad public policy.

[Mac (imported)]

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I suspect that the far greater punishment given to sex offenders compared to other criminals (denial of parole, involuntary commitment after "release," public watch lists, etc.) reflects our sad discomfort with sex more than it does anything else. A man who exposes his wee-wee in public is seen by many to be worse than a mere armed robber or drug dealer. The flasher is felt to be morally abnormal, while we can sympathize with someone who hurts other people for money. That reflects our own peculiar money-based morality more than it does the objective danger of various criminals. Violent crime must, of course, be strongly discouraged, whether or not there's a sexual aspect to the crime.

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This brings up another question. Why does society punish a man for exposing his wee-wee in public while considering it acceptable for a woman to do the same? They could both be doing it for the same reasons: (1) to be sexually threatening; (2) as a sexual offer; or (3) just to relieve themself. Who makes the determination that the man is a sexual pervert and that the woman's behavior is acceptable? Why?