Indeed, that's also why I edited my post to include "(drinkable clear liquor alcohol!)" - otherwise reading my post by itself might convince someone to try non-drinkable alcohol.
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Indeed, that's also why I edited my post to include "(drinkable clear liquor alcohol!)" - otherwise reading my post by itself might convince someone to try non-drinkable alcohol.
Indeed, that's also why I edited my post to include "(drinkable clear liquor alcohol!)" - otherwise reading my post by itself might convince someone to try non-drinkable alcohol.
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raynestorm (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:51 pm When your testicles go hard and you can't feel the injections - stop.
Rayne:
No, that can't possibly be good advice.
It's far too reasonable and makes too much sense.
Seriously though, the above was strictly kidding. I'm surprised Wayne encountered this issue after only five injections, when so many here have gone well beyond five injections with no issues. This just illustrates everyone's anatomy, physiology, biochemistry, and metabolism are different. We are individuals, and while a great majority of us may be very similar, there are still significant differences between us all. This is why we always stress personal responsibility, Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV), and strongly caution readers. We're not scaredy-cats, or trying to scare you off. We're seriously advising you regarding a serious personal decision.
Once again, I seriously hope Wayne is recovering, and hasn't experienced too much permanent damage outside of his scrotum and testicles.
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Caith721 (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:03 pm Once again, I seriously hope Wayne is recovering, and hasn't experienced any permanent damage outside of his scrotum and testicles.
Yep, that about says it.
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Finally did it! This is my first post, but I am very excited, I am on my way! I have read this thread with great excitement. I am not jumping into this with no forethought or experimentation / testing, but I want to get to the point here in this post. I will post my "story" later. I purchased my materials, Everclear, alcohol swabs and insulin syringes over the past few weeks. I stupidly purchased only 1/2 cc syringes. Tonight, I did one injection into each testicle. I was really, really nervous, but so far, so good.
Before proceeding, I took 4 - 200mg ibuprofen, just in case!
I performed the procedure on each testicle by binding each one loosely with some cord to hold it tight against the skin. I then shoved a hand towel underneath to prop things up so I could see better. I swabbed the injection site, drew a full 1/2 cc into the syringe, took a deep breath, then debated. Do I plunge, or push? I could not bring myself to plunge, so I pushed. Not bad at all, it slid right in.
Once in, I waited a few minutes to calm myself a bit. Then, I pulled back to do the blood check thing. All Clear. I then proceeded to push the syringe down in baby steps. No pain whatsoever. No burning, nothing. I withdrew the needle and repeated the process on the left testicle. Same thing. I then got elated and decided to post here!
I applied for a login, waited for it to be approved and am now posting, perhaps 45 minutes after performing the injections. I feel would could best be described as a dull pressure with perhaps a slight sensation of warmth in both testicles. No pain at all. Will report back if there is any.
In a couple of weeks, I expect to inject again. i will draw two needles for each testicle and inject one close to each end of the testicle and try to get 1 cc in each. The injection part was so painless, that 4 injections at one sitting does not bother me now.
I am so excited to finally be on my way to making this permanent!
Before proceeding, I took 4 - 200mg ibuprofen, just in case!
I performed the procedure on each testicle by binding each one loosely with some cord to hold it tight against the skin. I then shoved a hand towel underneath to prop things up so I could see better. I swabbed the injection site, drew a full 1/2 cc into the syringe, took a deep breath, then debated. Do I plunge, or push? I could not bring myself to plunge, so I pushed. Not bad at all, it slid right in.
Once in, I waited a few minutes to calm myself a bit. Then, I pulled back to do the blood check thing. All Clear. I then proceeded to push the syringe down in baby steps. No pain whatsoever. No burning, nothing. I withdrew the needle and repeated the process on the left testicle. Same thing. I then got elated and decided to post here!
I applied for a login, waited for it to be approved and am now posting, perhaps 45 minutes after performing the injections. I feel would could best be described as a dull pressure with perhaps a slight sensation of warmth in both testicles. No pain at all. Will report back if there is any.
In a couple of weeks, I expect to inject again. i will draw two needles for each testicle and inject one close to each end of the testicle and try to get 1 cc in each. The injection part was so painless, that 4 injections at one sitting does not bother me now.
I am so excited to finally be on my way to making this permanent!
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Do look back a bit to find a picture of the anatomy of a testicle and be cautious of injecting into the epididymis as that can cause great discomfort also, I would assume doing 2 injections per each time will cause a buildup of scar tissue that will leave the testicle larger than you would like, understandably injecting only .5cc at a time will take you a while, I would recommend getting some new needles tbh.
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Thanks Kimi! I meant to note, close to each end, staying away from the epidimous (or however you spell it). More like dividing the testicle into thirds and injecting into the center of each third, just to distribute the alcohol more evenly, initially. Next time will be the outer two - thirds. Does that make sense?
Do you really think those tiny needles will cause scar tissue?
I have a general question to the forum concerning when to stop injecting. I read a veterinary report somewhere about a single injection to each testicle in some animal resulting in testosterone levels equivalent to castration.
I realize no research has been done on humans, but why do some folks continue to inject once the testicles are hard and atrophied? Perhaps somewhere between 1 and x number of injections, once your testicles have hardened, or changed, it is just time to stop and see what happens. Seems if T levels go down to castrate levels, you will start seeing symptoms. Am I missing something here?
Do you really think those tiny needles will cause scar tissue?
I have a general question to the forum concerning when to stop injecting. I read a veterinary report somewhere about a single injection to each testicle in some animal resulting in testosterone levels equivalent to castration.
I realize no research has been done on humans, but why do some folks continue to inject once the testicles are hard and atrophied? Perhaps somewhere between 1 and x number of injections, once your testicles have hardened, or changed, it is just time to stop and see what happens. Seems if T levels go down to castrate levels, you will start seeing symptoms. Am I missing something here?
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I think that the amount of scar tissue caused by 1 needle will be doubled if using two needles (though some scar tissue must be from the alcohol eating at the meat inside).
That said - when injecting alcohol, there's also a little risk that some alcohol might leak out of the testicle trough the tiny hole left by the needle - thus damaging minor material(or causing discomfort) outside the testicle.
- The thicker the needle, the higher the risk. (If poking two holes you're doubling the risk from the small hole, which would give similar effect as a slightly thicker needle.). - 1cc needle also sound like a good investment to me.
Please be careful about taking pain killers prior to injecting (I'd suggest not to).
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Reading the post 721 here
- Two weeks interval seems like a good idea (the swelling might be gone, but though the testicle is down to normal size, that might not be "the new normal size" - diluting the alcohol with possible dead material/liquid floating around inside sounds like a shot which isn't fully effective).
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Since there's not much more knowledge than what you can see in the post, the idea must be to stop injecting once you feel it's hard to get it (perhaps one or two shots before) ... and wait a month and see your GP (remember to consider having a story? CBT accident? Work accident? Sports accident? Abuse of steroids at an earlier age? Tucking testicles(pain-strangulation)? or?).
- I don't think that all get the symptoms, and if someone is on anti-androgens already, they perhaps already had them before beginning - thus it might be harder for some to know when to stop.
cw1911nr (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:30 pm Do you really think those tiny needles will cause scar tissue? ... I have a general question to the forum concerning when to stop injecting. ...
I think that the amount of scar tissue caused by 1 needle will be doubled if using two needles (though some scar tissue must be from the alcohol eating at the meat inside).
That said - when injecting alcohol, there's also a little risk that some alcohol might leak out of the testicle trough the tiny hole left by the needle - thus damaging minor material(or causing discomfort) outside the testicle.
- The thicker the needle, the higher the risk. (If poking two holes you're doubling the risk from the small hole, which would give similar effect as a slightly thicker needle.). - 1cc needle also sound like a good investment to me.
Please be careful about taking pain killers prior to injecting (I'd suggest not to).
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Reading the post 721 here
t=16839&page=49 - I'm also not certain that the effect of the injection has fully set in after one week, if it had I'd assume that there would be less of a difference between the 15 and 30 days testing.
- Two weeks interval seems like a good idea (the swelling might be gone, but though the testicle is down to normal size, that might not be "the new normal size" - diluting the alcohol with possible dead material/liquid floating around inside sounds like a shot which isn't fully effective).
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Since there's not much more knowledge than what you can see in the post, the idea must be to stop injecting once you feel it's hard to get it (perhaps one or two shots before) ... and wait a month and see your GP (remember to consider having a story? CBT accident? Work accident? Sports accident? Abuse of steroids at an earlier age? Tucking testicles(pain-strangulation)? or?).
- I don't think that all get the symptoms, and if someone is on anti-androgens already, they perhaps already had them before beginning - thus it might be harder for some to know when to stop.
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Performed fourth injection session. Did both this time. 1.5cc. No pain or sensation before or after injection. Needles went in easily. (I don't reuse needles; use new needle for each injection). The lack of sensation in both balls accounts I guess for no pain during or after. This is a fringe benefit. Just touching or fondling each/both is like feeling prosthetic testes. Very odd, interesting, and I like it.
Hope all works out well for Wayne. It's good that everyone post their experiences, good or bad; doing injections comes with assumed risk and should not be done just because others have had good experiences.
Injector beware.
I guess the hard part is to determine when to stop. Obviously, from Wayne's experience if the needle won't go in easily, stop. Others claim to have done many more injections than Wayne.........but then as we all know, claims are not necessarily truth. (Not saying anyone is exaggerating....but don't believe everything you read,right?)
Hope all works out well for Wayne. It's good that everyone post their experiences, good or bad; doing injections comes with assumed risk and should not be done just because others have had good experiences.
Injector beware.
I guess the hard part is to determine when to stop. Obviously, from Wayne's experience if the needle won't go in easily, stop. Others claim to have done many more injections than Wayne.........but then as we all know, claims are not necessarily truth. (Not saying anyone is exaggerating....but don't believe everything you read,right?)
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For everyone's convenience, I'm re-posting my earlier post #432 (
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Caith721 (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:43 am of a detailed anatomical drawing of the testicle. For reference material, there is an excellent diagram and descriptive text available at this site (http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/4154-overview):
httl of the epididymis.Caith721 (impo [/quote] rted) wrote:Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:43 am p://img.medscape.com/pi/emed/ckb/...54-1790155.jpg (http://img.medscape.com/pi/emed/ckb/uro ... 790155.jpg)
Illustration by David Schumick, BS, CMI. Cleveland Clinic Center for Medical Art and Photography © 2009. All Rights Reserved.
Cross-section illustration of a testicle and epididymis.
A: Caput or head of the epididymis.
B: Corpus or body of the epididymis.
C: Cauda or tai
D: Vas deferens.
E: Testicle.
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Thank You for Everyone's replies! You are all soo kind
Its been 3 days since the 5th injection and Im on my last day of Vicodin but my left teste still hurts really bad. To give you an idea, my left testicle is about 3 1/2 inches long and my right is only about an inch long. It has swelled 3 times its size. Since I started the injections, my testicles have started shrinking a lot. There is soo much swelling. It hurts just to touch it. Maybe I did it wrong and maybe I injected it into the epididymis by accident..? I dont know. I find it strange that there are a lot of people out there that can inject 12 times and more before their testicles become hard, and mine became hard in just 4 injections. Do you think its because they started out with regular vodka instead of Everclear like I did? After It heals, I will try again in 3 weeks but i will put the needle higher up this time. It might have been my fault by injecting too low. Hard to say. All I know is, I couldnt barely get the needles in both testicles; they were soo hard. Next time, I will be more causious and safer. If its too hard and I cant get the needle in, Im not going to force it. i will just take it out. Im not going thru what I went thru again. I know this is a learning experience. We read everything and we think we know what we are doing but sometimes things still get f**ked up. Lesson learned. Today was my first day out of bed. LOL