Dangerous Option?

[Milkman (imported)]

First let me say that I certainly do not want to promote anything that is dangerous or life threatening, but the band and slice method seems to merit further discussion. EA member Ghostautumn successfully castrated himself using this method on Wednesday and is home from the hospital already.

Just for discussion, it would seem that the band and slice method has fewer complications than those who went to Dr. Kimmel later in his practice or those who have gone to illegal cutters. It creates a smooth ballless crotch, if immediate medical attention is sought. The problems adhesion of the cord stumps, chronic swelling, pain and other sequelae are avoided.

I know of 4 band and slice eunuchs and all were successful, but that is a small sample , indeed. Could other members discuss other band and slice events that went wrong. Apparently the main danger is bleeding to death if the bans slip or are not tight enough, a hazard that in no way should be minimized, but what else can go wrong?

[JeffEunuch (imported)]

Good question. I know of no specific cases. However, I also understand from several discussions in fora such as this one of guys losing too much flesh and thus making healing take that much longer.

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the band and slice method seems to merit further discussion. EA member Ghostautumn successfully castrated himself using this method on Wednesday and is home from the hospital already. Just for discussion, it would seem that the band and slice method has fewer complications than those who went to Dr. Kimmel later in his practice or those who have gone to illegal cutters. It creates a smooth ballless crotch, if immediate medical attention is sought. The problems adhesion of the cord stumps, chronic swelling, pain and other sequelae are avoided. I know of 4 band and slice eunuchs and all were successful, but that is a small sample , indeed. Could other members discuss other band and slice events that went wrong. Apparently the main danger is bleeding to death if the bans slip or are not tight enough, a hazard that in no way should be minimized, but what else can go wrong?

[Dana Lane (imported)]

I would never do this myself because it terrifies me but I would most certainly call the ambulance before I did the slice part and then toss them in the garbage disposal. I would want to hear the sirens before doing anything!

[Losethem (imported)]

I'm not sure I would advocate this.

1. It will work so long as the band stays on afterwards.

2. If the band slips off, the new eunuch stands a chance of bleeding to death.

3. When a "cutter" does this, he ties off the cords and then removes the nuts. That would at least supply a slight tourniquet to the cord stumps such that the likelihood of getting to a hospital in time is MUCH better in that situation.

4. All these are dangerous methods, but I also understand we've not got much choice these days if a man truly wants this done.

If you do any of these, I advise not to. But if you do, exercise extreme caution and be sure you have the phone handy to call emergency services.

--LT

[tugon (imported)]

I guess needing a quick trip to the hospital is a complication. I would think a rather expensive complication if living in the US. I can certainly understand the desperation to be castrated. I am also glad those I know that have tried this method are alive and well. One day soon I hope that the medical profession will understand our needs and give safer options.

[bobbie (imported)]

First let me say that I certainly do not want to promote anything that is dangerous or life threatening, but the band and slice method seems to merit further discussion. EA member Ghostautumn successfully castrated himself using this method on Wednesday and is home from the hospital already.

Just for discussion, it would seem that the band and slice method has fewer complications than those who went to Dr. Kimmel later in his practice or those who have gone to illegal cutters. It creates a smooth ballless crotch, if immediate medical attention is sought. The problems adhesion of the cord stumps, chronic swelling, pain and other sequelae are avoided.

I know of 4 band and slice eunuchs and all were successful, but that is a small sample , indeed. Could other members discuss other band and slice events that went wrong. Apparently the main danger is bleeding to death if the bans slip or are not tight enough, a hazard that in no way should be minimized, but what else can go wrong?

I guess I have two words for Ghostautumn IDIOT and Lucky.

First let me say that I certainly do not want to promote anything that is dangerous or life threatening.

Well you are!!!

B

and and slice method seems to merit further discussion.

This method has been talked about for years. While the slice does make it almost unrecoverable. Assuming the paramedic to not recover the balls. The risks is still very high. Bands slipping off on the way to the hospital. Extremely hard to stop the blood when inside the groin.

Good that he is home already from the hospital. Any idea on the cost of the ER and doctors fees. Would be very interested on the real cost of the castration.

I am assuming that someone was with him during this. Being a part of and assisting in the slice castration can end up charged for practicing surgery. That could end up serving a few years in jail. Some years back that happened to one of the members. After the jail time he was deported.

Agree that many in the site were castrated other then by a doctor. Seems like most do not come back to the archive posting that they are alive. Seems like one guy ended up paying somewhere around $40,000 medical bills. Insurance will not cover. I know many in here that were castrated with out doctors. Few ever tell anyone just how and where they were done. Most think it is best that no one knows.

Apparently the main danger is bleeding to death if the bans slip or are not tight enough, a hazard that in no way should be minimized, but what else can go wrong?

Infection

Going in shock, you know when you can pass out. Going in shock can happen even in the hospital. At least there it can be attended to fast.

Medical costs

The hospital visit can be on your medical records.

One then one has been put in a psycho ward.

The the other good on of it being found out. It can end up in the evening news. Your name posted on the internet. Think about the links posted in the past 2 weeks on other threads.

The person helping can be arrested. Even if not his name can be in the same evening news and internet. Once on the internet it is their for ever.

Each of us make the choice of wanting to be castrated. We all do it for different reasons. One has to accept what can happen if something goes wrong. I can already see I will get some hate mail about the posting. Many of them could be in the list of self or assisted castration. All I am saying is that their some great risks. Making it sound so easy can make some think it is a easy way to be castrated. Their lack of knowledge could be fatal.

[The Lurker (imported)]

I am not confident that GhostAutumn's story is true...

Regardless, No one should EVER perform MAJOR surgery on themselves.

Even discussing this in such a cavalier way can encourage the desperate among us to do something drastic and dangerous.

[DeaconBlues (imported)]

I am sorry to disagree with you Bobbie, but I do not feel that Ghostautumn was an "idiot," nor was he particularly lucky.

He has actually accomplished what most of us here can only talk about. That he was able to do it, and "pull it off without a hitch" is just cause for me to offer my sincere respect and congratulations. I suppose you would also carelessly put that "idiot" label on me because I went to Mexico and bought my own depo provera and injected it in myself (Gasp! WITHOUT a doctor's permission?!?). There very well could have been complications and severe consequences in my case as well, I considered those possibilities and took the risks with my own body. It's not like I was sending anyone into the battlefield to die for my decisions, just risking my own health... and in the absolute worse case, my own life. What Ghostautumn did risked only his own life and health, and he now has achieved what most of us here only dream about.

In a perfect world... we would not be forced to take such extreme measures to get a simple minor surgical procedure done to our own bodies. Unfortunately we do not live in a perfect world, and all of us are forced to compromise our values in one way or another, I for one will not jump on the bandwagon of the self-riteous and condemn him for doing what I only wish I could do myself.

Bottom line, he took some very serious risks and did not have to suffer severe consequences, he got what he wanted. Like a gambler who wins in the casino - but realistically the odds he gambled on were much much better than the odds of any casino game. I do not for one second begrudge him the win, he earned it fully, I only feel happy for him, maybe a bit envious too.

[SplitDik (imported)]

Well, as long as you can make it to a hospital, then I think it is pretty much the most viable option available right now. I suggest to make it safe, you need a friend with you who is committed to getting you to the hospital immediately afterwards.

In principle the main risk is blood loss. Even ghostautumn said he bled a lot, even with banding and clamping overnight, so it is a serious issue. You can bleed a lot from that area quickly, and you won't be able to drive generally to get yourself to a hospital.

Phoning an ambulance is an option, but you'd need to do it before you pass out (from pain, shock, blood loss).

So, if you have to do this, please at least have someone from the Archive visit you to watch over you.

The worst thing is to be embarrassed or hesitant to get to the hospital. It is not an "if" but a "must" that you go to the hospital.

[Milkman (imported)]

I don't want to say how I know, but "ghostautumn's " story is unquestionably true.