getting feminized without breast development,is that possible?

[foxytaur (imported)]

thanks for info. some of the pics were very realistic with what im expecting. \hey itty bitty titties are the least of my issues. Facial and presentation are more my focus.(i'm not worries about my body its very pear shaped and again extremely healthy)

I hear some TG-gals take ratios of hormones. With E> T of course.

Of course when i'll talk with my doc I'll opt to go on anti androgens first then on low dose hrt.

I don't plan on doing this till im at that comfort level with my studies. For the most part lots of therapy sessions before I try anything.(I'm a methodical step by step person anyways)

I'm pretty patient with things. One of my proffesors told me good people finish last.

NB = One things for sure i'll have to be careful with my posture and make sure i'll sit up straight. Those T blockers do have a neg impact on bones i hear(osteoporosis)

I am curious though. If im 24 turning 25. why didn't T make me more manly?(not that im complaining heckkk nooo) but it seems some males grow to be very very masculine early while others dont at all. I mean heck from pics I posted I look relatively young as Micheal Cera. I'm still gonna get on the ball with the antiandrogens just kinda hard when yer living with a mom whoose almost as radical as some of those crazy tea party republicans.

That in itself is the route source of my frustrations and anxieties and well I've had a strong willpower to resist her but it's starting to get at me. hence my well whack off sessions.

OH GAWD it's a living nightmare. Now I know why A1 bad mouths about them soo much.

[butcherbaby (imported)]

Only if you take them without E. You really should dig into the Biochemical process first. It's not hard to understand and i think there's even a good wikipedia article on mtf-hormone therapy. Hormones are no poinson for your body if the dosage is right just the negative effects from pills on the liver can become a problem which can be avoided through injections, patches or gels. Just start on a low dosage.

[~Tiamat~ (imported)]

Perhaps estriol is worth a try? Apparently it inhibits breast growth although I'm not sure if it has feminising effects elsewhere in the body?

[foxytaur (imported)]

i'll go with what can feminize me the best but at low dosage. If i get breast yay...If i don't meh.it aint the end of the world. \the face is all I care and body. Though tits are a possibility since both sides of family they get fairly big.

Another thing is even as a male my chest region has a lot of mass around where boobs are suppose to be .

Not moobs but I feel spongy tissue thats underdeveloped.

I use to be an avid drinker of soy milk, then switched the latter to almond milk due to my lactose intolerance but soy was giving me tons of xeno estrogens when i was really young up until 18ish.

I won't lie, a lot of foods I consume have tons of phyto-estrogenic potency.

Sprouted grain flax bread, green beans, olive oil, virgin coconut oil, lentils and beans of all sorts, berries, and in general avoid hgh carb foods religiously. A favourite my friends have when were playing some arcade classics or n64 is poutine. Ergggghhh......the stuff is revolting in my opinion but it's a canadian classic. 2 or 3 fries is good enough for me. Afterwards it's a trip to the washroom.(Too much info )

[~Tiamat~ (imported)]

Sorry that was to the OP

Phyto/xenoestrogens just seem to fill the receptors with junk in my experience :S Probably better than nothing but once you're taking HRT they might do more harm than good, just to warn you! Although a few mugs of sage tea has seemed to take the edge of the flushes when I've been stupid enough to order my pills too late in the past

[foxytaur (imported)]

I take phyto estrogens for good reasons. My mom's side of the family suffers from heart attacks.

Id be pretty dumb not to take advatage of foods that will decrease my LDL fats and lower my risk for cardiac arrest. Hrt will increase my chances at getting one so Id better prep for it.

Further more hrt from what ive researched tends to increase

insulin resistance. Last thing i need is to

become fat. I have an endomorphic body type and it's difficult to loose the weight unless i do cardio and go low carb but low glycemic without depriving me of carbs.

[~Tiamat~ (imported)]

Ah I'm sorry Foxytaur I wasn't trying to be rude or a know-it-all. Just sharing my limited experiences - I'm new here and I'd rather start by being helpful if I can than by asking a ton of questions I'm sure you have your reasons for eating what you eat!

Since starting HRT I've certainly gained body fat (but not much weight, and I was a stick insect with very little muscle to begin with) and I actually seem to tolerate carbs better than I did. Before eating pasta would send me to sleep within half an hour!

[foxytaur (imported)]

Hehe no worries.

I know my body type very well. I know I share more of my mom's traits than dad's. Plus side I stand a good chance of transitioning from what other member's have said from pics I posted.

The downside is the hrt itself. I'm concerned about the blood clotting and heart risk assesment involved. The most I can do is take a very Incan styled diet to keep my arteries and veins in check. and well hope for the best. That and once i grad I can start going on beta 17 estradiol but using patches. If anyones got tips on hormones that reduce the risk assesment for heart attacks and cardiovascular disease i'm all for listening

NB = also I'm not a know it all either. transward has had to correct me in several posts. I do admitt I can be a heavy hypocondriac

[foxytaur (imported)]

OK soo my sis is in hair school, rookie essentially, and said I'd be unable to pull off a shaggy hairstyle due to my hair being extremely thick, course and wavy.

I really want to pull off a shaggy hair

It has me soo angry. Does hrt change my hair?

If so in what ways?

Like will it grow longer?

[~Tiamat~ (imported)]

Mine has gotten a lot finer

It's really soft which is lovely but it's hard to get volume now.

Really I think the best way to get it longer is to stop cutting it If you absolutely can't get it long now though that might change as DHT stops hurting your follicles.